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Friday, 30 March 2007
Based on the continued failure for Registerfly and Kevin Medina to send ICANN an accurate copy of the current registration data, ICANN yesterday sent notice of a lawsuit to be filed.

As the concern about the safety of our information as well as our domain names increase greatly, ICANN intends to file suit seeking escrow of the current registration data and they also intend on filing and ex parte application seeking a temporary restraining order which will require Registerfly to turn over to ICANN all of the data that ICANN has requested.  The document is located here on this site and also on ICANN.

As of this moment, there is no proof that ICANN has in fact file suit and they also threatened to file suit on the 5th of March and here is a related article.

While this all sounds good the question is what's going to happen with our names.  Customers right now all over the world are sitting on the edge of their seat with only one thing on their mind, "Where, when and how am I going to secure my intellectual property?".

During these announcements and threats of lawsuits Registerfly customers continue to suffer great losses of business while their domain names are parked and tasted or lost altogether.  It's good that ICANN is finally stepping up to the plate but the fact is they waited a year too long.  Had they been more aggressive with the first thousand or so complaints, this debacle would probably be wrapped up about now.  Instead, we're waiting on a lawsuit and the formalities involved.

There has also been a Class Action lawsuit started by former customer of Registerfly, Anne Martinez who owns GoCertify.com.  To join this lawsuit please fill the application listed here.  The press release is located here.  I'm certain there will be some very interesting information coming out in the discovery.

So what next?  That's the big Question.  We will try to keep you updated on the latest.   Meanwhile we want to gather some a list of effected domain names that are submitted by everyone here.  Please list them in the forum and with a brief story and we'll get them into a format to be published within the site to Registered members only.  List the names effected here.
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nmutchler - Not a good idea Registered | 2007-03-30 11:18:25
I do not think it's a good idea to have a list of vulnerable names in a public forum. It's not all white hats and good guys out there .. cybersquatters just waiting for a chance like this
nicola Registered | 2007-03-30 14:48:31
nmutchler - I SECOND THAT! very bad idea to list domains you're having problems with in any forum. don't want to then deal with people trying to steal the names.

i joined the customer class action suit today, http://www.registerfly-lawsuit.com

ok, one thing that REALLY concerns me with icann trying or getting the database of domains from RF is that, RF database is not up to date, meaning, i have 102 domains listed in my RF account, but i have successfully transferred 80 of them out to another registrar - so i really only have 22 domains stuck with RF even though RF account still shows all 102 of them. SOOOOOOO the big question....if icann gets the list from RF will they try and pull all 102 domains or just the 22 that are 'really with RF'.... i hope that icann checks the whois data before trying to mass pull domains that may show on RF acct but are with a different registrar...and if they don't check whois data, does that mean all our transfered domains will get yanked away just because RF outdated database shows them in our accounts? Geesh!
dsmj - Failed domain log list Registered | 2007-03-30 11:48:57
Ok cool.

a couple things.

1) Mr Levins posted that Registerfly will see mediation on its RAA revocation. This adds 30 days to their current accredited status, to accomodate that process.

e.g. decreditation date is now In May 2007, April 1 will come and go with no fanfare, no diabolical twist and no event horizon.

2) The log list of Domains in trouble is not intended for general consumption, it is a way for some of us to follow and case-relate, no guarentees but there are helpful folks that can help if alerted to a specific domain instance. If you are worried about being public about it, then dont post it, kind of basic... some folks are in such duress that any help is better than what they have now. Trust that the intentions here are good, but make your own choices. The Class Action suit may well be your preferential recourse.

3) This website and the efforts of the flies here is at a cost that is not being recovered. Its just a solid yankee basic philosphy that if you can help and know how to, that you should. Please if you have the ability, click that donate button.
nmutchler Registered | 2007-03-30 13:46:38
i have donated to Akron (which is what I call Admin) - and everyone using this site should give a little if they can - or a lot if they can. I hope his new advertising on the site is paying off for him too. He deserves it for the hard work and time and crap that he's taken for this site. I think it's great that he has some volunteers helping with the site now as well. While I understand that registerflies.com themselves are above cybersquatting - it's those other people out there reading our posts that concern me.
To what end a public list of domain names that are in jeopardy would help anything, I'm not really clear. I only know that I don't want some scumbag poised to snap up MY property. Oh wait - that already happened ..
dsmj - FAQ at TUCOWS Registered | 2007-03-30 12:41:01
FAQ

http://resellerhelp.tucows.com/hello.php?lang=en&prog=01&catnr=1&subcatnr=5

Its amazing , but from what i can tell its the registrars and not the registry that generates the authcodes.

This is basicaly putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

I am stunned by the degree of incomplete reasoning in this malfunctioning process that has caused us all so much grief.

Take money and give too much control to the registrar.

It also states in this FAQ that Redemption is 30 days. I have been asessed HUGE fees for redemptions status invoked by the registrar only right after expiration on registrar failure to renew, not only by RFLY but other registrars as well. For them this is like printing money and i need to see an investigation on this.

All the registrar needs to do
to make 10 times the cashhflow,
is fail to renew, allow to expire
and then charge redemption fees
that can amount to $200 per domain

Ahem. gentlemen of Verisign and ICANN , we have a problem with the smoke in that pipe of yours. Tell me i am wrong with facts and details.

The more i dig in, the more bad news i find in the background of all this, and quite a bit seems to fail basic competency.
captainproton Registered | 2007-03-30 17:41:58
I agree. The overcharging for expired domains has got to go.
lhale - Problems with ICANN Registered | 2007-03-31 10:59:27
That is annoying, along with the necessity to pay for the moving of domains from one registrar to another, with out getting time added to our registration period. I've got domains on RegisterFly that I would love to move to a service that can be trusted but I just don't have the $100 to $300 to get them all out.

I thought about doing the mediation process for a domain that RegisterFly sold and then pocketed the money for but I can't really afford the couple thousand to go through mediation, nor can I really prove what RegisterFly did as all the records of transactions made to my account have been disappeared, whereas before they were meerly inaccurate.
NickySmith - Class Action Lawsuit against R Registered | 2007-03-30 16:57:43
avatar Have you seen http://www.registerfly-lawsuit.com/

Join the Class Action Lawsuit at http://www.registerfly-lawsuit.com/join-registerfly-lawsuit.shtml
rceliberti - cybersquatters List Needed Registered | 2007-03-30 17:29:06
Why not list all the cybersquatters that stole our domains allready? My domain name was taken for the sole purpose of selling it back to me. Who else would want a name like schmooseme... I now own schmooseme.net and hope not to lose this one.

RSC
clever_username_here - re: cybersquatters List Needed Registered | 2007-03-30 21:27:16
rceliberti wrote:
Why not list all the cybersquatters that stole our domains allready? My domain name was taken for the sole purpose of selling it back to me. Who else would want a name like schmooseme... I now own schmooseme.net and hope not to lose this one.

RSC


RSC, that name is unique enough for you to trademark cheaper than paying the squatter -- so trademark it, and get it back for free.
lhale - Tademarks Registered | 2007-03-31 11:00:37
Trademarks cost something like $650 to register. Even if he did pay that, it wouldn't be like getting it back for free.
clever_username_here Registered | 2007-03-31 13:10:50
Well, if you know a cybersquatter that sells domains for cheaper than $650. Let us know.
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