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Friday, 27 April 2007

ICANN granted the right to act on transfers as soon as possible; plan in action


Marina del Rey, CA: Under a preliminary injunction issued yesterday by US Federal Court Judge, Manuel J. Real, ICANN now has the right to terminate RegisterFly’s accreditation as soon as possible. The provision to ICANN of current and accurate data for all of RegisterFly’s domain names has also been ordered by the Court as RegisterFly failed to meet the conditions of a temporary restraining order (TRO) which the Court issued on April 16, 2007.

Following the injunction, ICANN is immediately inviting statements of interest from accredited registrars starting Monday, 30 April 2007, to act as a transfer provider, so domain name registrants can gain full access to their domains. The registrar handling the transfers will temporarily hold the names and help registrants transfer to any ICANN accredited registrar of their choice.

“Registrants are our first concern. ICANN is following a very determined approach to returning access to domain name registrants impacted by the collapse of RegisterFly,” said Dr Paul Twomey, ICANN President and CEO.

“ICANN knows that many registrants are anxious for a transfer to occur. We are committed to making sure this process is put in place as quickly as possible,” Dr. Twomey added. “While we understand that this process may be frustrating for some RegisterFly customers, it is the first time that ICANN has had to intercede in such a way and these steps are being taken to ensure that the system introduced works as effectively as possible” he said.

In order to become the transfer provider, registrars must be:

  • ICANN accredited for at least two years;
  • in compliance with the Registrar Accreditation Agreement;
  • able to demonstrate that it possesses the technical and financial qualifications necessary to operate a registrar with the number of registrations that the applicant will need to manage if it is selected as the services provider.

The draft Terminated Registrar Procedure is available online at http://www.icann.org/announcements/terminated-registrar-procedure-27apr07.htm.

The Court decision also requires RegisterFly to immediately post a notice on its web site as follows:

NOTICE TO CONSUMERS: THE INTERNET CORPORATION FOR ASSIGNED NAMES AND NUMBERS, THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT ENTITY THAT ADMINSTERS THE INTERNET’S DOMAIN NAME SYSTEM, HAS ISSUED A NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF THIS COMPANY’S ACCREDITATION TO SERVE AS AN INTERNET DOMAIN REGISTRAR. PLEASE SEE www.icann.org FOR FUTHER INFORMATION.

Once ICANN finalizes RegisterFly’s termination, the website notice must be revised to reflect the actual termination of RegisterFly’s accreditation.

Please visit the ICANN Website to view the announcement.

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Flybert Registered | 2007-04-27 20:16:07
I'd like to know why I can never get on icann.org pages (?!?)
PPNSteve Registered | 2007-04-27 20:17:02
Now lets hope this moves along fast, so our still un-transfered names are transfered and UNLOCKED (both status and protection) so that we can get them live again.

I'm so looking forward to RF being gone and gaining full control of my domains once again!
freddieb - Huge task ahead Registered | 2007-04-27 20:34:58
Don't hold your breath, guys.

Does anyone realise what it's going to take to first of all get all of RF data current and up-to-date?

This has to be done before anything else gets done.

Imagine having to check EVERY domain that RF still has in its database to see who a)the current Registrar is, b)who the current Registrant is c)if it's still registered d)if there is a current dispute over all the stolen/lost domains

The fact is, RF's data is so out-of-date that it's just a heap of rubbish.

My account shows 18 expired domains and lists them all, it shows 41 domains as being at RF, it shows 7 domains as expiring within 30 days and it shows 1 active transfer. What a heap of rubbish!

I've had all 60 of my domains out of RF for weeks.

So how is ICANN or another registrar going to deal with all of the above?

900,000 customers to check and 2 million domain names to cross-reference, validate ownership. Imagine it!

Imagine how many disputes there will be to deal with!

It's gonna take years.
servertransfert Registered | 2007-04-28 07:59:03
Perhaps an easy way to have an accurate ownership list is that Icann contacts Verisign (.com, .net) Pir (.org) Neulevel (.biz)... so that they hand over the list of domains where Registerfly is still mentioned as registrar (active, pending deleting, ...)
Icann contacted them already a few weeks ago in order to prevent losing ownership of domains (server delete prohibited).
Furthermore OpenSrs-Tucows and Enom, where Registerfly acted as reseller, can easily provide a similar list.
The only fastidious remaining task will be to identify customers hiding their identity with protectfly as the database from Registerfly is a mess.
So, with some clever and cooperating people it can be solved easily and not take years !
Festus Registered | 2007-04-27 20:39:19
Yep, it will take years...
PPNSteve - re: Registered | 2007-04-27 20:43:41
Festus wrote:
Yep, it will take years...
heh.
as long as they do mine first :p
kit Registered | 2007-04-27 20:49:35
I don't think it's as bad as all that. Sure it will take a while to sift through them but theres a difference between outdated information, and actual domain names that still exist locked up with them.

I'm hoping

So has everyone logged onto registerfly and printed off all of their receipts and documentations for all of their domain names that still exist with them?
SexyPanther08 Registered | 2007-04-27 20:55:06
Well, I am free from RegisterFly so this is a little too late for my concern...
world peace Registered | 2007-04-27 21:00:00
Wow, I JUST got auth codes for RF domains that I couldn't get otherwise! I can get these out now!!!

I used the support ticket system, by the way.
freddieb - re: Registered | 2007-04-27 21:03:00
SexyPanther08 wrote:
Well, I am free from RegisterFly so this is a little too late for my concern...


Well, so am I, and you and I are both o.k. as long as ICANN and the appointed Registrar don't take RF's data as being accurate, 'cos then there'll be lots of us up the creek!
dean2900 Registered | 2007-04-27 22:19:35
Quote:
Well, so am I, and you and I are both o.k. as long as ICANN and the appointed Registrar don't take RF's data as being accurate, 'cos then there'll be lots of us up the creek!


This is what I am wondering about also. I have at least 15 domains showing up on RF that have long since been transfered to other registrars. It is obvious that RF doesn't have accurate info on the domains. This is going to get uglier before it gets better.
webpatty - Still Screwed Hope this is goo Registered | 2007-04-27 22:20:05
I initiated a transfer of 20 of them 4 days ago. Still nothing from RF to get them moved. Enom sure missed a few of mine. Plus I had about 20 without authorization codes. I've written 3 tickets. Not a word.
SexyPanther08 - re: re: Registered | 2007-04-27 22:33:32
freddieb wrote:
SexyPanther08 wrote:
Well, I am free from RegisterFly so this is a little too late for my concern...


Well, so am I, and you and I are both o.k. as long as ICANN and the appointed Registrar don't take RF's data as being accurate, 'cos then there'll be lots of us up the creek!


Oh heck yeah!! I guess my site is still getting proprogated (sp) but it is almost 5 days so SAYONARA RF!! I got all my info this week actually so I am praying that my site won't be one of the affected ones...
JeffK Registered | 2007-04-27 23:24:28
So where is the ICANN termination above posted on the RF website? I think ICANN should take control of the domain name and post all necessary information for rf victims on a new website. Medina should be arrested and charged urgently. The US consumer affairs protection is a pitiful joke.

Jeff
freddieb - re: Registered | 2007-04-27 23:57:37
JeffK wrote:
So where is the ICANN termination above posted on the RF website? I think ICANN should take control of the domain name and post all necessary information for rf victims on a new website. Medina should be arrested and charged urgently. The US consumer affairs protection is a pitiful joke.

Jeff


So is this,RF still has this info up:

"RegisterFly.com, inc. is an ICANN Accredited registrar. RegisterFly.com provides industry leading 24/7 Support via a variety of methods which includes, phone, email, ticket system. RegisterFly.com offers domain registrations as low as $2.99/ea and domain transfers for only $6.99. By adhering to our basic principals of low cost and value to our customers and excellent customer service we have grown to be one of the largest low cost registrars on the web today. In terms of number of customers and domains registered we are one of the 10th largest registrars in the world. We are not a "one man" shop (like many domain registrars and resellers) or a "here today gone tomorrow" business, we have invested substantially in positioning Registerfly.com as a global industry leader."
curious observer Registered | 2007-04-28 01:19:25
Wonder who will be the registrar selected? And how fast they will make a decision?
Paprika Registered | 2007-04-28 03:03:17
yeah i got happy when i seen this post but then again they still are waiting till the 30th to even begin to accept bids to takeover registerfly's domains
Dave Zan - re: Registered | 2007-04-28 06:30:06
curious observer wrote:
And how fast they will make a decision?


My guess is at least a week or 2, 3 weeks tops. Everyone will want to tread carefully and not leave any room for mistakes to be possibly exploited.

None of you need worry about your domain names supposedly with Registerfly if they've been transferred out successfully since then. But I'd imagine ICANN will have a logistical headache trying to verify all that.

I have one idea here. Perhaps someone could compile a database or so bearing names that have been successfully transferred out since then and submit to ICANN to help with the workload?
dnsportugal - Good news Registered | 2007-04-28 06:39:59


Good news!

Some issues need to be take special care though

1. Domains efectively hijacked by RF, where whois has been changed to RF’s own credentials.

2. Proxy registrations

3. Domains already expired, in RGP or Pending Detele.

As for 1. and 2. RF/KM must be prevented from transfering names out to another registrar unless they can clearly prove that they are the legitimate owner of the name.

As for 3. a wider time frame should be granted to registrants, as some of them might have accumulated a number of domains in these states that they can’t afford to renew at once.
ammodump - ...need to sue for mental angu Registered | 2007-04-28 06:48:50
Do I have to pay for this nonsence. Do I really have to pay $ * # of site?
vorapoap - Will that affect the working d Registered | 2007-04-28 06:59:26
This is a good news!!

I have 2 more domains on RF that is very crucial to our business. It won't expire until September 2007. The domains are still working.

And I hope that this BULK transfer won't temporarily shut down these domains., or will it?
bcmoore - Is there any recourse? Registered | 2007-04-28 08:34:20
Luckily, I was able to get my main domain transferred out of RF, but I still have one that RF was unable to transfer from enom when I was trying to renew it back in Nov. It is now in RGP and I still haven't been able to get it back. I don't think it's fair to have to pay the big bucks to renew it now when it wasn't my fault. BTW, RF charged me twice for the renewal and the renewal failed. No refund either from RF.
mybagofjems - you can get codes Registered | 2007-04-29 02:41:19
I want to say that you CAN get the auth codes from registerfly's support ticket system. But it will take about two weeks to get a response. I am saying this because that is how I was able to get the last 3 auth codes for domains they held hostage.

And after my last domain gets transferred [which will be any day now], then I will initiate complaints through paypal to get some of my money back.
captainproton Registered | 2007-04-30 01:41:23
Lucky you. Going onto three months asking for authcodes. All my support tickets were deleted.
kit Registered | 2007-04-29 16:30:01
I got a response from a TECH through ticket support yesterday.

My situation is 2 domains expired 10 days ago. I paid to renew them via c/card 3 days before, and 3 times after. $100.00 has gone off my credit card for them.
So I sent a support ticket, for them to renew them as I've paid but renew failed, and that I need auth codes for a transfer.

The response was, "your domains appear to be expired, renew them and then ask back for the codes"

Nice heh.....
SouthAfricaRed Registered | 2007-04-29 18:52:08
NOTICE TO CONSUMERS: THE INTERNET CORPORATION FOR ASSIGNED NAMES AND NUMBERS, THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT ENTITY THAT ADMINSTERS THE INTERNET’S DOMAIN NAME SYSTEM, HAS ISSUED A NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF THIS COMPANY’S ACCREDITATION TO SERVE AS AN INTERNET DOMAIN REGISTRAR. PLEASE SEE www.icann.org FOR FUTHER INFORMATION.

Anybody seen this on Registerfly site

How long do they have to comply with this Court Order
freddieb - How long do they have? Registered | 2007-04-30 01:12:27
SouthAfricaRed wrote:
NOTICE TO CONSUMERS: THE INTERNET CORPORATION FOR ASSIGNED NAMES AND NUMBERS, THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT ENTITY THAT ADMINSTERS THE INTERNET’S DOMAIN NAME SYSTEM, HAS ISSUED A NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF THIS COMPANY’S ACCREDITATION TO SERVE AS AN INTERNET DOMAIN REGISTRAR. PLEASE SEE www.icann.org FOR FUTHER INFORMATION.

Anybody seen this on Registerfly site

How long do they have to comply with this Court Order


As long as they like. They'll probably never bother, 'cos no one is going to enforce it, not ICANN, not the court, not the law.

RF does exactly as they like. They still show ICANN accreditation, they are still taking people's money for domains and services that they don't/can't supply.

It's just a sick joke.
kit Registered | 2007-04-29 20:14:10
Well I got another reply to that support ticket I was talking about above.

This time they did reply and included 2 "codes" series of numbers and letters (10 in total) that may or may not be authority codes for my 2 domains.
What they didn't do is renew my domains so I could access them to transfer them. They are still client locked.

The TECH team are good
kit Registered | 2007-04-29 23:53:37
I just found out that a domain I was supposed to own, that I purchased through Registerfly on 4/4/07, and shows up as mine still today in the control panel, was actually never purchased in real life. And is still available to puchase on the net.
LOL you have to laugh....
freddieb - re: Domain registration Registered | 2007-04-30 01:19:39
kit wrote:
I just found out that a domain I was supposed to own, that I purchased through Registerfly on 4/4/07, and shows up as mine still today in the control panel, was actually never purchased in real life. And is still available to puchase on the net.
LOL you have to laugh....


I did the same on 4th April and the domain shows in my account, but it's still available for registration in the real world.

This is what worries me about ICANN handing over all of RF's data to someone else, it's all so out-of-date and inaccurate it's practically useless.

Imagine having to check EVERY domain name at Verisign alone and try and determine who is the correct registrant and who doesn't, etc. etc. NIGHTMARE!
Paprika Registered | 2007-04-30 12:44:24
well I'm happy!! my domain successfully transfered over to namecheap this morning and I have control over it. Praise The Lord!

... now to just get my other domain out of there!
DeanClinton Registered | 2007-04-30 14:11:35
Their tickets still say they are accredited... (Yes, they replied to my 3 day old ticket minutes ago)

--
Thank You.

Authorization Code Support
Registerfly.com INC
ICANN Accredited Registrar
dsmj - whatever Registered | 2007-04-30 17:11:24
They sent me authcodes i subsequently used in Godaddy that registerfly then refused ... the codes were obvious keyboard swipes... asdfdgh stuff.
un real.

Then godaddy send me an ICANN rebate of 3 Cents!

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN®) recently agreed to reduce their Registrar Transaction Fee from $.25 to $.22. What does this mean for you?

Good news. You have been credited $.03/yr for each domain name you registered or renewed dating back to July 1, 2006* -- $.48 has been placed into your Go Daddy® account with this customer number: 12904140.

Your in-store credit will be applied to your purchases at GoDaddy.com® until it's gone or for up to 12 months, whichever comes sooner!

I have so had it with the whole domain name management, can someone with clout please end this ICANN countryclub and swat this registerfly finally - it has been months now.
freddieb - re: whatever Registered | 2007-04-30 17:30:24
dsmj wrote:
Can someone with clout please end this ICANN countryclub and swat this registerfly finally - it has been months now.


Be patient, it's gonna take years, not months!
kit Registered | 2007-04-30 20:39:35
How long would it take a tech at Registerfly to unlock your domain name so it can be renewed or transfered.
How long would it take for the info to change at Whois?
cstanley1 - I'm sure this has been answer Registered | 2007-04-30 23:15:08
but here it is: Is it possible to buy a new domain, and then login to registerfly.com and somehow adjust your settings so that every time people type in the original domain, they get forwarded to the 2nd one?

C.
dean2900 - What a crock Registered | 2007-05-01 18:52:43
As RF continues to fail on a domain that has expired (even though I tried renewing and transfering it), please note the bottom of the support ticket. I am getting a response now after about a month but it doesnt do any good as they keep saying try again in 24 hours. I have lots of RF cash. Anyone want to trade me for Gerry Giraffe Cash?

[i]04-30] Hello,

I have informed to our technical department regarding renewal issue. Please try to renew your domain after 24 hours. If you will face any problem then please get back to us. We will do further process for you.

Thank You.

Authorization Code Support
Registerfly.com INC [/i]ICANN Accredited Registrar
dean2900 Registered | 2007-05-01 19:04:32
So here is the next response. Don't wait 24 hours, wait days. Next it will be month and then years.

I got all my clients accounts off. I let several expire into registerfly land but this one domain left is a family domain where it has all of my family email addresses and it keeps up with addresses, phone numbers, etc. I am better shape than most but the continued BS is amazing.

Sorry for the trouble caused to you.
We are facing some issue with our renewal system.Our admins are working on this issue and the issue will be resolved soon.Please try to renew the domain after few days.

Thank you.

Authorization Code Support
Registerfly.com INC
ICANN Accredited Registrar
kit Registered | 2007-05-01 22:06:53
I got the try again 3 days 48 hours ago.
I didn't stand for it so I rsponded back with a copy of the WHO-IS report showing the client transfer/update locked status.
Well within minutes it came back and he said he moved my 2 domains into active and client lock was indeed taken off. He told me to try and renew them immediately.
Whois reported status OK.
A few hours has gone by and sure enough, there both locked again.
I can't transfer them out.

Are they just stalling for time or trying to squeeze more money out of me?
curious observer Registered | 2007-05-01 22:17:52
And now ICANN says they are giving registrars until May 18th to submit their letters of interest.

I, for one, would not want to be an employee at the "winning" registrar. Have you seen the statement on the ICANN site about what they will be required to do? For one, create a seperate entity (Unbranded) for the domains to go into. Research and fix invalid WhoIs. Help customers transfer away.

And for this they get a portion of the ICANN fee. The company that gets this nightmare has to be nominated for sainthood.
freddieb - Big job for appointed registra Registered | 2007-05-02 00:39:26
Imagine having to cross check EVERY domain name that's in the RF database for correct Whois and if there is a dispute, check the expired names to see if they really are expired, etc, etc.

2 million names is gonna take a long time to check!
mschutz Registered | 2007-05-02 01:54:21
That May 18 deadline is for statements of interest for people to serve on various boards. It has nothing to do with Registerfly. Still doesn't give me hope for a quick resolution, but let's not feed more mis-information...
Tokafatty Registered | 2007-05-02 12:32:29
And for this they get a portion of the ICANN fee. The company that gets this nightmare has to be nominated for sainthood.

And how many of those domains do you really expect will get transferred? I'd guess that at least half would stay there.
dzzt - Roll your eyes.... Registered | 2007-05-02 01:24:38
Well, RF just sent me a renewal notice for a domain I moved off them 2 months ago. I'd claim "fraud," but that would require competence.

The good news is that the, um, winning registrar will have far less than 2 million names. The bad news is that it will still be way, way too many.

Lastly, does anyone know how to get a copy of the judge's decision?
RichF - ICANN Banner is gone, but the Registered | 2007-05-02 01:25:19
If you go to the Veggie Stir Fry Home Page, you will see that the ICANN Logo and claims that Registerfly is accredited has been removed.

However, in the "About Us" page the claims are still there. Check it out:

http://www.registerfly.com/info/about.php

RichF
freddieb - re: Big job for appointed regi Registered | 2007-05-02 01:54:03
dzzt wrote:

The good news is that the, um, winning registrar will have far less than 2 million names. The bad news is that it will still be way, way too many.


Well, it would be less than 2 million names if RF data was up-to-date, but it's not. All my 60 domains still show in my RF account, even though they've been transferred weeks ago, so presumably everyone else's account will be the same, showing all their domain names that aren;t really there, so the winning registrar will need to check every domain in every account that's in RF database!
freddieb - re: ICANN Banner is gone, but Registered | 2007-05-02 01:56:56
RichF wrote:
If you go to the Veggie Stir Fry Home Page,


Veggie Stir Fry Home Page???????
Flybert Registered | 2007-05-02 13:08:09
what bugs me is RF sending me renewal notices on names that I moved weeks or months ago .. It's likely Kevin isn't removing domains from the database because the Federal court doesn't want any records removed

Not hard to sort out if the domains are elsewhere, just look up the WHOIS

A guy bought a name from me for $950 last year, made an RF account through a girlfriend, who didn't know enough to change the WHOIS contact info, and the domain is stuck in RF limbo, poor guy's GF probably forgot the password or something

Registerant's name N/A, but I'm listed in the WHOIS for all other categories, including billing

I think there's a good chance I'll end up with the domain back, though I'm going to call & e-mail him soon to see if I can help him straighten it out well before it expire's in August
dnsau - authorization codes Registered | 2007-05-02 18:14:30
RF is now giving out authorization codes. I received mine within four hours. Go to ticket system and use drop down "request authorization code for domain transfer" then list the com and net domains you require authorization codes for.
EVENTHOLDER Registered | 2007-05-02 18:18:04
ANyone call the Judge to ask for the judge to provide information on these charges they made(rflY) and did nothing?...I think the Judge should require immediate refunds and accurate accounting to EACH consumer...not to Icanne.
dean2900 - re: ICANN Banner is gone, but Registered | 2007-05-02 20:58:28
RichF wrote:
If you go to the Veggie Stir Fry Home Page, you will see that the ICANN Logo and claims that Registerfly is accredited has been removed.

However, in the "About Us" page the claims are still there. Check it out:

http://www.registerfly.com/info/about.php

RichF


They are committing massive amounts of fraud, hijacking domains, and stealing money. I see no reason that they are above lying about ICANN status.
jakesrun - RF sending email with out-of-d Registered | 2007-05-02 22:27:16
I just had a ticket of mine updated from RF:

Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 20:18:54 +0000
From: DO_NOT_REPLY@registerfly.com

Response:
Hello,

If you have tried to renew your domains and were charged for renewal then please get back to us
with charge details of domain renewal, so that we can check it with our payment department and
will do further process for you.

Thank You.

Authorization Code Support
Registerfly.com INC
ICANN Accredited Registrar


SEE!!! Accredited!!! As of May 2nd!
Sheesh!
curious observer - re: Registered | 2007-05-02 23:12:23
Tokafatty wrote:
And for this they get a portion of the ICANN fee. The company that gets this nightmare has to be nominated for sainthood.

And how many of those domains do you really expect will get transferred? I'd guess that at least half would stay there.
Well if I am reading the ICANN site correctly, the move to the new registrar will be temporary. It's not going to be a windfall for any company. Which is as is should be. Free up the domains then let the owners make their choice on where to move them to.
kovak - suggestion to get money back Registered | 2007-05-04 00:31:25
If any of you have recently (say within 30 days using a credit card) tried to pay for your domains to either renew or purchase a new domain from registerfly you should contact your credit card company and inform them. I did this and they credited me immediately and they knew exactly what was going on. I'm currently trying to transfer my active and expired domains to a new registrar. We'll see how it goes... I also have support tickets in to RF. Lord have mercy on us all.
Cossins Registered | 2007-05-04 11:56:30
Let me caution those that are planning on reversing charges on your credit card. Do NOT do this until all of your names are safely removed from RF as they have been disabling account access to those who've reversed charges.
Paprika - re: authorization codes Registered | 2007-05-04 17:04:22
dnsau wrote:
RF is now giving out authorization codes. I received mine within four hours. Go to ticket system and use drop down "request authorization code for domain transfer" then list the com and net domains you require authorization codes for.

x2

After reading the message posted by dnsau I went ahead and also selected that option when filing a new ticket and recieved a response within 24hrs.

However one note, the option you want to select is "Obtaining Authorisation codes for your domain" .. i didn not see an option quoted exactly as dnsau had put it.
freddieb - re: Registered | 2007-05-04 18:16:36
Cossins wrote:
Let me caution those that are planning on reversing charges on your credit card. Do NOT do this until all of your names are safely removed from RF as they have been disabling account access to those who've reversed charges.


Yes, I've experienced this. RF disable all your DNS for your domains and set all Registrant info to theirs, so they effectively seize ownership of your domains.

BE WARNED, DO NOT CHARGEBACK TO RF IF YOU STILL HAVE ANY NAMES THERE!
EVENTHOLDER Registered | 2007-05-06 12:26:54
After much research I discovered several of my domains were not renewed and not purchased. Several were sold while I still owned them...in other words while they were shown as mine in the contrl panel other sources were showing they were sold on a different date while I held the name...after my purchase but before the expiration. If this isn't fraud I don't know what is...
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-06 16:46:21
I discovered the same thing, except that evidence for the domain name was deleted out of my account.
freddieb - Keep records Registered | 2007-05-06 19:36:59
It pays to keep records of everything, 'cos you never know when you might need to prove a claim.

Keep all the registration of domain name conformation e-mails that you get from the Registrar, keep all your CC or Paypal transactions, do regular screen dumps of your domain name lists at your registrar

RF data is hopelessly out-of-date, no one realises how far out it is, so don't take any notice of what your RF account says. It ain't necessarily so!

Be warned, you'll lose if you go by their data.
cymoo - New Proposed Order Registered | 2007-05-07 11:41:58
avatar This is a new order before the court. It has yet to be signed by the Federal Judge. It would instruct a Federal Marshal to proceed to secure the data. A hearing is set for this matter this week.

Proposed Order Granting Civil Contempt Sanctions
http://www.icann.org/legal/icann-v-registerfly/icann-v-registerfly-prop-order-2may07.pdf

My Registerfly Lawsuit Info Site
http://www.registerflylawsuit.info/
ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-05-09 19:47:08
Do you know what day this week that this hearing is set for? This is Wed., only two more days left this week.
PPNSteve Registered | 2007-05-07 18:39:49
well ok.. so hopefully the judge singed this and ICANN has contacted the US Marshal's to seize the data.

I for one, am getting very tired at all this waiting and no action. Lets get these name out of RF now! today. this week at the least.
dean2900 Registered | 2007-05-08 20:52:50
I am still just dumbfounded on why on domains that have expired that were on registerfly and not enom cannot be transferred and it fails everytime you try to renew. I keep getting tickets saying wait 24 hours, wait 72 hours, and now we are aware of a problem.

I am just trying to spend the credit I have because RF sure as hell isnt sending me a check and I want my domain back that I have owned for many years.

The whole mess will go on for years. I hate it for all who have client domains still at RF. I was lucky enough to get all my cleints domains out of there even though about 20 still show up as being on RF. What a mess.

People have posted an address for both homes for Kevin. Anyone in the Miami area ever considering waiting outside his house and then saying I would like to talk to you....

And I am not endorsing you to hire some thugs to rough him up (wink).

Dean
greg02 - Mixed success with renewal Registered | 2007-05-09 02:31:08
I had a dozen+ domains with RegisterFly and long story short, 2 of them expired during this whole mess. Of course RF does not answer support tickets, emails, phone calls (disconnected) and so the domains are sitting there locked (clientTransferProhibited clientUpdateProhibited) with the RF "ProtectFly" (privatization service) info. With no way to either renew the domains with RF and therefore gain access to change the status to unlocked these domains are in hostage status.

I attempted the renewal process again at RF today (have done this daily, up until now the interface errors out and payments have not been accepted). I was able to successfully renew 1 of my 2 expired domains. Of course I was charged for both renewals, but only one was actually processed, the domain I was charged for but that did not renew showed a "Billing error". So I am now able to access 1 of my 2 expired domains again, and I have opened a ticket on the failure of the 2nd renewal. I don't expect much with regards to the ticket, none have been answered yet.

So, in summary if you have expired domains you can roll the dice and see if you are able to renew and if RF processes it, my success rate as detailed above was 50%.

Anyone else make any such attempts?
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-09 06:34:49
Check the whois. I think you may find that there was no renewal at all.
greg02 Registered | 2007-05-09 11:55:19
Of course I checked WHOIS, and yes, like I said in my email above, 1 of the domains was renewed, the other one was not.
ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-05-09 19:58:30
I think there should be a new, OFFICIAL domain status created now - HOSTAGE STATUS. I mean, in reality, this status has existed for awhile now, so why not make it official. Maybe ICANN can do this one thing for us?
kit Registered | 2007-05-09 10:40:37
Guys today I had 2 important domains transfered away from Registerfly.com.
Today was the 7th day, and transfered by default as they did not send an away request, or anything. It's like no ones home there anymore.

But what an effort it took.
For 5 days leading up to the 2/May I took the advice stated here, and sent numerous e-mails and support tickets everyday. To different departments like transfers and renewals etc.
The domains were in Client/Transfer prohibited state with the renewals failing.
The reply I got back was, renew seems to have failed please try again in 3 days.
So I support ticketed back with a cut and paste of the whois on the domains and highlighted the client lock status and where he should be looking at to unlock them.
Well it worked. He replied saying there unlocked and they were according to Whois. But a couple of hours later they were locked again. So I persisted with numerous copious support ticket requests and emails to ICANN and they unlocked them again and refunded the initial renewals amounts into my quick checkout account. Which I quickly used to renew the 2 domains. They had expired by 10 days by this stage (I had tried to renew them 3 days before).

Anyway it worked, they renewed and immediately went into my new Registrar's console and ordered transfers for each and what do you know, 7 days later they are mine again in their new home.

Keep trying guys, it is possible. At least my domains won't be caught up in a dispute for the next couple of years.
joshualober Registered | 2007-05-09 11:49:20
Same experience here... After no response to open support tickets since February, about 10 days ago someone began responding to my RF tickets. I finally got all 60 of my domains unlocked and began the transfer process. I too had to wait the default 7 days, but now 59 of 60 have been transferred with the final one expeced to complete in the next two days.

Good luck...
greg02 - Renewals still failing Registered | 2007-05-09 12:35:51
Update 09:25 PST

Someone finally responded to one of my tickets and refunded the failed renewal fee to my RF account and told me to retry the renewal. I proceeded to attempted to renew, 6 times actually, and each time it failed giving reason "Failed: Unable to renew Billing failure". After each failure it just refunds the money back to the RF account. So, obviously they have disabled their billing processor in order to be able to deny renewals.

Update 09:30 PST
Just got a response back on the ticket. It appears to be an automated response they are appending to all open tickets, because all of my tickets were updated with this:

Quote:

Hello,

We are facing some technical issue with our renewal sytemOur admins are working on this issue.the system will be up within few days.Please try to register the domain after few days.

Thank you.

Authorization Code Support
Registerfly.com INC
ICANN Accredited Registrar
servertransfert - renewal Registered | 2007-05-09 13:28:26
Registerfly is playing dirty games. Domains correctly renewed and paid were not activated for another year and parked on a special Registerfly website. Luckily since march Icann has blocked delation or redemption.
Even if you send Registerfly (several times as I did) a proof of payment and the copy of their mail confirming the payment, Registerfly does nothing.
The only remaining hope is that in a few ? weeks all will be over when Icann appoints a new registrar.
Its fantastic how Registerfly can still move on. Are Us-laws especially voted to protect thieves instead of correct citizens ?
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-09 14:10:14
No, I don't blame bad laws. I lay the blame *squarely* on ICANN. This problem should have been resolved a year ago. And they should have had the marshalls in there in Febuary when it became clear out and out fraud was taking place. The should have *immediately* declared the RAA agreement void in the light of fraud, rather than giving RF time to "fix" things, which as we know simply has not happenned.

It's great that a couple people managed to ge a domain name renewed. But RF is still insolvent because they are not processing renewals/registrations for many people.

Really, criminal in nature.
ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-05-09 19:34:44