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Friday, 23 February 2007

Site Hacked and Data Corrupted

Attention everyone.  I just received confirmation that the Registerfly site has currently been hacked into and taken over by Kevin Medina in the Florida office.  I was asked to put this up here due to the amount of customers that are sending money.  At this moment, they are trying to get police in Florida to arrest Kevin immediately.

I'm relaying a message that they have asked me to put up on here.  They have lost control of even the site and are locked out of the system.  The data has been corrupted but they do have a back up and are scrambling to get this situation resolved.

Your support forms on this site will be held right now and forwarded when we know the proper management team has control of the data.

This is only what I've been told and this is currently the only medium of communication that the current management of Registerfly has.  More updates soon. 

"I see on your main site that you say that we don’t have any access to help customers. That isn’t entirely true. We do have access but it is very limited. We just don’t have any access to make updates to the website over the weekend. I feel we will have full access back on Monday and I found out something that will most certainly have kevin arrested and put in prison for a very long time."

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revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-23 18:34:45
You have got to be kidding me.......

ICANN STEP IN NOW, PLEASE
kimvette - Open letter to Ms. Medina Registered | 2007-02-23 19:03:54
Please limit your comments to an endorsement of this letter. I write this on behalf of all of us.

from: Kimberly Lazarski

To: Ms. Miriam Medina
to: ely@iglou.com

cc: miriammedina@earthlink.net, accredit@icann.org, accredit@icann.net, authcodes@icann.org
Also CC: Slashdot readers, Registerflies readers

Hello Miriam,

PLEASE talk to your son Mr. Medina and convince him to not hold domains
hostage at RegisterFly.com

As you are probably aware, the business he founded with John is the
lifeblood of the Internet, providing what is essentially street
addresses in the electronic world.

He was doing a fantastic job until recently.

See, recently he has apparently decided that certain domain names were
worth more than the agreed-upon price, and allegedly has been conducting
back-room deals with other registrars to take paying customers' internet
addresses (consider it virtual real estate, but vital to many small
business owners' livelihoods), has been hijacking these addresses and
then allegedly selling them to other registrars for more than the price
he contracted to give it to the original owner for.

It is akin to my taking your apartment, keeping your condo which you
prepaid condominium association fees a year or more, kicking you out on
the street, and then giving that apartment to someone else. Now, you did
nothing wrong to lose that condo, and in fact, that condo which you
OWNED has now been stolen by a condominium association and sold to
someone else.

I tried calling you because I have been trying in vain to get in contact
with Mr. Medina because I am losing domain names of which my company is
the registered owner. I have proof that we have paid for these domains,
I have proof of ownership of these domains, however, your son Mr. Medina
has stolen my property.

I know many other people are trying to call you as well. The reason is
this: your son has put many thousands of small businesses into jeopardy.
Some business owners are stressed to the point of considering suicide,
some are angered to the point of violence, and some are so stressed they
have become physically ill. I am one of those who is physically ill; I
am suffering from a stress-induced migraine, my stomach is upset, and I
am praying that Kevin spends an eternity in Hell. Yes, I know that is a
decidedly un-Christian thing to say, but I not only have two domains I
am in imminent danger of losing, but we have also lost control of
domains we manage for many of our clients, all due to your son's grudge
and greed.

I beg you to please talk some sense into your son. He is allegedly
guilty of the following crimes:

- Illegally accessing computer networks
- Interfering in interstate commerce
- committing credit fraud

These crimes fall under the jurisdiction of the FBI and the Secret
Service of The united States of America. He is going out of his way to
hurt small businesses such as mine because of his ego and personal
grudge against John Naruszewicz and Glenn Stansbury.

Now, there is well more than sufficient evidence for John Naruszewicz
and Glenn Stansbury to put him behind bars for many years.

I am asking you to PLEASE talk some sense into him. I realize you will
be losing him to Federal prison for a very long time, however, he does
not have to continue his grudge by damaging RegisterFly's database; He
is directly affecting tens of thousands of businesses around the world
by doing this. I have lost a week's worth of work because of your son's
actions, and I ask you to please, please contact him and tell him to
KNOCK IT OFF.

Please consider talking to him. I am sick of losing sleep because of the
actions of a man I do not even know.

I thank you kindly on behalf of tens of thousands of small business
owners because I know you will do the right thing and talk some sense
into your son.


Respectfully,

Kimberly Lazarski
JRBHosting - Supported Registered | 2007-02-23 19:50:32
I second this letter.
kimvette - Ms. Medina responds! Registered | 2007-02-23 20:04:43
Ms. Medina responds!

her reply:

On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 208 -0500, Miriam Medina wrote:
This is harrassment for you to bother an old lady who is ill with diabetes.
> If you don't stop this harrassment I shall report you to the authorities. I
> am not connected to this company!
>

To which I responded:

I tried calling you only ONE time. That is NOT harassment. I merely
called in vain effort to contact Mr. Medina in good faith as I have paid
for domains and he has stolen my property and is doing nothing to
restore it.

if you are being hounded by many other callers, I cannot help that. I
merely called one time trying to find SOME way to speak with Kevin to
convince him to correct a matter which is harming many, many, many small
businesses and disrupting interstate commerce.

Best regards,

Kimberly Lazarski
JRBHosting - Hmmm Registered | 2007-02-23 20:06:56
An old lady ill with diabetes...

Forgive me for generalizing, but I don't know many elderly women (as so depicted) whom can fire off a reply to an e-mail in an hour.

Personal experience
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 20:05:17
I called in good faith to try to find someone who can contact Kevin. That is NOT harassement, regardless of what she may think.

Oh well. Phone records will show only one call was made.

From: Miriam Medina
To: Kimberly Lazarski
Subject: Re: Please read this
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:46:45 -0500

This is harrassment since you admitted calling me. Leave me alone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimberly Lazarski"
To: "Miriam Medina"
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Please read this

On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 208 -0500, Miriam Medina wrote:
> This is harrassment for you to bother an old lady who is ill with
> diabetes.
> If you don't stop this harrassment I shall report you to the authorities.
> I
> am not connected to this company!

I tried calling you only ONE time. That is NOT harassment. I merely
called in vain effort to contact Mr. Medina in good faith as I have paid
for domains and he has stolen my property and is doing nothing to
restore it.

if you are being hounded by many other callers, I cannot help that. I
merely called one time trying to find SOME way to speak with Kevin to
convince him to correct a matter which is harming many, many, many small
businesses and disrupting interstate commerce.

Best regards,

Kimberly Lazarski
JRBHosting - Hm Registered | 2007-02-23 20:16:06
I just called my neighbor. Harassment?

;)
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 20:56:01
Apparently so.
Stevek - Blame Game Registered | 2007-02-23 18:54:10
Everyone is pointing fingers at each other and blaming the other for all the problems.

I don't know if it's Medina or his partners at fault. I do know that a criminal activity cannot be ignored.

Many of us would like to see the guilty party go to jail.
Abused - Why doesn't this surprise me Registered | 2007-02-23 19:01:34
I hope somebody puts a bullet through Medina's head.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 19:21:02
I hope so too, but if it comes to pass one could be considered an accomplice for making such a statement, given that you may actually contribute to someone who is borderline insane over their business in jeopardy actually making the decision to carry such a thing out.

I would not mind beating him to a bloody pulp to be quiet honestly, but what would that resolve? I'd end up bruised, probably bleeding (I know Tae Kwan Do but it'[s been MANY years since I've sparred), and it would not fix my domain.

Instead, I want Kevin to make things right. I want him to fix my pendingDelete domains; domains which I paid for in full and are indicated as being up to date in our RegisterFly Account Control Panel. I want him to unlock our domains, let us transfer them out. Then, he can go his way, we can go ours, and that will be the end of it; no hard feelings.

In the meantime, I am losing my livelihood thanks to his alleged misconduct and lavish lifestyle.

Thanks, Kevin, you're a real swell guy. And what I mean by that is I hope you burn in Hell for all of eternity.
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-23 19:29:28
Does anyone smell something burning?
A Cherry On Top Registered | 2007-02-23 19:07:31
Come on ICANN STOP THIS MADNESS NOW & NOT IN 15 business days (3 weeks).
wheel - backdoors. Registered | 2007-02-23 19:32:07
ummm, wasn't I the one talking about backdoors?

Maybe what I said should of been taken seriously. I am not surprised.

As i said earlier, blocking ONE IP wouldn't make a real diff.

The root pass does not mean anything if the person has planeted a backdoor.
wheel - Data Center Registered | 2007-02-23 19:56:12
Ok, now that we know the server(s) are comprimised, is there anyway for the "proper" management to call the datacenter and ask them to null the IP's or SHUT DOWN the server(s)? It's better registerfly is DOWN vs running comprimised.
blakilox Registered | 2007-02-23 19:59:01
call 911
if a few thousand did that perhaps they would arrest him to see what all the fuss is all about
whats the number from Australia?
Abused Registered | 2007-02-23 20:00:50
@kimvette

your opening statement says "I hope so too" before criticizing me for what I said, think about it.

But in all seriousness I hope he is murdered and ends his life in excruciating pain, I'm crossing my fingers that somebody hires a hit man to take him out.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 20:57:16
it was tongue in cheek.

Obviously.
wheel - abuse. Registered | 2007-02-23 20:03:36
I think it's time everyone email abuse@sagonet.com. The server needs to be pulled.

Cany anyone reach 1-866-510-4000 from their calling area?
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-23 20:05:02
Admin, if there's anything you can truly do to help, right now, put THAT on the frontpage.

wheel wrote:
I think it's time everyone email abuse@sagonet.com. The server needs to be pulled.

Can anyone reach 1-866-510-4000 from their calling area?
blakilox Registered | 2007-02-23 20:02:47
Does USA have like a Minister for Telecomunications a government office, a higher authority than ICANN?
JRBHosting - FCC Registered | 2007-02-23 20:37:08
FCC and FTC, they are called ;)
ebiz1 Registered | 2007-02-23 20:44:28
Click on "File a Complaint":
http://www.ftc.gov/
The FTC is fully capable of shutting down fraudulent companies.
oliveuk - just open the bloody database! Registered | 2007-02-23 20:09:03
I am not gonna play this game and blame this Kevin whoever he is.

ight now what I know is that I am still able to login, pay for my renewal (trust me I will ), check my domain names and their expiration date and even issue unreplied tickets so I guess that there is a database somewhere that still holds all my details!

How long would it take to open the database and read its content then help your customers to move to a safe place? Ok you probably don't want to loose those customers but you have to realise that it is a bit late you know!

Put the website down in the meantime and create a landing page to inform your clients that you have been hacked and are trying to resolve the situation, explaining what will happen with the domain name falling apart.

If Registerfly is my registrar, who is registerfly's registrar? Just change your Domain Name entry to point to a different servers! HOW LONG WOULD THIS TAKE????

Come on it doesn't take 2 monkeys to backup the whole content of your wesbsite, move it to a different IP/server, open the php files, find the login and passwords to the database and redo a similar website to at least enable people to renew, transfer their domain names.

If the new management doesn't want to do that then I guess they are just trying to pursue the same tactics mister Kevin whoever is accused of having used.
wheel - re: just open the bloody datab Registered | 2007-02-23 20:45:05
ENOM is the REGISTRAR of RECORD for registerfly.com.

oliveuk wrote:
I am not gonna play this game and blame this Kevin whoever he is.

ight now what I know is that I am still able to login, pay for my renewal (trust me I will ), check my domain names and their expiration date and even issue unreplied tickets so I guess that there is a database somewhere that still holds all my details!

How long would it take to open the database and read its content then help your customers to move to a safe place? Ok you probably don't want to loose those customers but you have to realise that it is a bit late you know!

Put the website down in the meantime and create a landing page to inform your clients that you have been hacked and are trying to resolve the situation, explaining what will happen with the domain name falling apart.

If Registerfly is my registrar, who is registerfly's registrar? Just change your Domain Name entry to point to a different servers! HOW LONG WOULD THIS TAKE????

Come on it doesn't take 2 monkeys to backup the whole content of your wesbsite, move it to a different IP/server, open the php files, find the login and passwords to the database and redo a similar website to at least enable people to renew, transfer their domain names.

If the new management doesn't want to do that then I guess they are just trying to pursue the same tactics mister Kevin whoever is accused of having used.
wheel Registered | 2007-02-23 20:10:21
It's upto the data center to pull the server at this time. It seems registerfly is using sagonet's IP space. sagonet is responsible via SWIP for abuse. So, it's time the data center get involved as their IP space is being used abusively.
wheel - Data Center is responsible. Registered | 2007-02-23 20:14:23
The data center needs to know about the abuse happening on their IP space, as they can potentially be blacklisted if they are allowing their IP space to be used for fraudulent activity.
Sagonet needs to DOWN that server/null route the IP(s) in question.

They are on SWIP for abuse on the ip that registerfly.com runs on - 66.118.144.68.
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-23 20:22:15
Everyone should go here:

http://sagonet.com/contact.php

And contact all those email addresses with what you've just said.
ebiz1 - re: Registered | 2007-02-23 20:15:27
blakilox wrote:
Does USA have like a Minister for Telecomunications a government office, a higher authority than ICANN?

The FTC might be the closest govt organization with any power to do anything:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Trade_Commission
kimvette Editor | 2007-02-24 00:53:52
It's under jurisdiction of both the FBI and the Secret Service of The united States of America.

FBI - Kevin, if he really is the cause of this mess, is interfering with interstate commerce, illegally accessing and vandalizing computer networks, and disabling many other companies' networks

Secret Service:if the allegations are true, Kevin is engaging in credit card fraud. Multiple billing, not delivering goods or rendering service they were paid for
mjskier - re: Data Center Registered | 2007-02-23 20:25:39
wheel wrote:
Ok, now that we know the server(s) are comprimised, is there anyway for the "proper" management to call the datacenter and ask them to null the IP's or SHUT DOWN the server(s)?


What makes you thing these bozos know where the data center is? Sounds like Kevin was the tech dude.
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-23 20:34:45
WE know where it is and I've just emailed every address at
http://sagonet.com/contact.php. All of us should.
Abused - re: Registered | 2007-02-23 20:40:07
blakilox wrote:
Does USA have like a Minister for Telecomunications a government office, a higher authority than ICANN?


Quote:
a higher authority than ICANN?


LOL authority :-)

Registrars run the internet and ICANN gets $0.25 per registered domain to ensure they turn a blind eye.

Wake up.
wheel - What needs to be done. Registered | 2007-02-23 20:46:40
If the "proper" management plans on salvaging ANYTHING left from registerfly, they need to get this server shutdown, and disconnected from the internet. From that point, they need to deploy a new server from SCRATCH under the strictest of security, and literally HAND PICK the data to be merged from the old install. There should be NO CODE USED from Kevin Medina, as there could easily be a hidden back door somewhere. The only data that should be merged is the ABSOLUTE necessary backend data that involves the domains themselves. Anything that can be rewritten, should be rewritten by a trust worthy entity.
User authentication scheme also needs to be taken into account, as well as other details that I cannot even possibly imagine as I am not an expert in domain registrars.

Also, considerations as to WHO is responsible for the server at the data center needs to be taken into account seriously.
wheel - re: re: Data Center Registered | 2007-02-23 20:47:41
Well, this is where they need to promptly hire someone that has a clue?

mjskier wrote:
wheel wrote:
Ok, now that we know the server(s) are comprimised, is there anyway for the "proper" management to call the datacenter and ask them to null the IP's or SHUT DOWN the server(s)?


What makes you thing these bozos know where the data center is? Sounds like Kevin was the tech dude.
wheel - re: Registered | 2007-02-23 20:58:45
I'm gonna email the abuse addy on SWIP shortly.

revelationdesign wrote:
WE know where it is and I've just emailed every address at
http://sagonet.com/contact.php. All of us should.
oliveuk Registered | 2007-02-23 21:06:07
Here is what I sent to Sagonet.com

[i]"I am one of the 900.000 disgruntled Registerfly customers. Supposedly one of their ex employees fled with all their customer details and keeps running the website hosted by your company for his own account.

Uninformed customers keep paying for their renewal fees, not knowing who they are sending their money to and not getting their domain names renewed.

You can find more informations on the following website http://registerflies.com/index.php"[/i]

What else should we do?
wheel - re: Registered | 2007-02-23 21:18:10
I would keep it limited to the ABUSE done on the IP space, such as the fraudulent activity in regards to credit card fraud. Simply being an unhappy customer is not "abuse". Fraud and hacking is.

oliveuk wrote:
Here is what I sent to Sagonet.com

[i]"I am one of the 900.000 disgruntled Registerfly customers. Supposedly one of their ex employees fled with all their customer details and keeps running the website hosted by your company for his own account.

Uninformed customers keep paying for their renewal fees, not knowing who they are sending their money to and not getting their domain names renewed.

You can find more informations on the following website http://registerflies.com/index.php"[/i]

What else should we do?
anonymousguy - FBI Internet crime report file Registered | 2007-02-23 21:06:41
FYI, id you see this post?

http://registerflies.com/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,26/func,view/catid,2/id,846/#846

I figure, why be frustrated when I can be constructive?
martinjohn Registered | 2007-02-23 21:38:32
ok, can someone please explain to me what is going on and what i should do about it? im very concerned as registerfly have money and domains in my account - what will happen to them?
freddieb - VeriSign Records Registered | 2007-02-23 22:43:58
As I understand it, VeriSign is the Registry management and they store all records, including auth codes, servers etc.

If you've got proof of ownership then it shouldn't be too difficult to communicate with VeriSign, they have the records of nearly 200 million domains under their control and can release and block, etc.
freddieb - re: Registered | 2007-02-23 22:46:52
martinjohn wrote:
ok, can someone please explain to me what is going on and what i should do about it? im very concerned as registerfly have money and domains in my account - what will happen to them?


I think at this stage, don't panic. RF is probably under DOS at present. I was on the site earlier and renewed a domain, 'cos I've got credit there, I unlocked some domains, changed some contacts and did a transfer from GoDaddy for some domains.

I don't think it's in anybody's best interest for RF to collapse and I feel sure that there are people working towards getting everything together, including Kevin.
leming - Some resolution...... Registered | 2007-02-24 06:55:32

Yesterday I got through to a Cust Svc person at RF. His suggestion was to contact eNom since RF had let my domain expire. He said it would be the fastest way to get it restored. After a phone call and couple of emails I successfully rescued my domain from the clutches of RF and it is now back on the net! Now I'm going to try another domain that RF let expire and see if that works as well.

OK all you rats.... Time to leave the ship!
xhackr - Things are not always as they Registered | 2007-02-23 23:00:49
As to the Miami office, filed with Florida Department of State, Division of Corporations, Kevin Medina is the sole principal of Unifiednames, Inc.

While this whole mess makes a nightmare for those affected, an entertaining, cliffhanging drama for those on the sideline watching, I think when everything comes out in the wash we will see Naruszewicz and Stansbury not the white knights they are being portrayed as.
wcw Registered | 2007-02-23 23:12:22
Quote:
As to the Miami office, filed with Florida Department of State, Division of Corporations, Kevin Medina is the sole principal of Unifiednames, Inc.


True, but that corporation was formed on 12/22/06 by Kevin. Why do you think he formed it?

The allegations in ICANN's breach letter to Registerfly seen damning about Mr. Medina. Given the apparent incompetence of Naruszewicz and Stansbury to regain control of the system, I don't have faith in any of them.
xhackr - re: Registered | 2007-02-24 00:20:07
wcw wrote:

True, but that corporation was formed on 12/22/06 by Kevin. Why do you think he formed it?

The same reason he formed the NJ corporation. He is the sole principal in that as well.

wcw wrote:
The allegations in ICANN's breach letter to Registerfly seen damning about Mr. Medina. Given the apparent incompetence of Naruszewicz and Stansbury to regain control of the system, I don't have faith in any of them.
There is nothing for those two to regain controll over according to the respective Department of States.
Kyanar - ICANN responds Registered | 2007-02-23 23:02:23
ICANN has apparently finally seen fit to respond, issuing RF with a "fix it in 15 days, or else" notice:

http://www.icann.org/correspondence/registerfly-notice-of-breach-21feb07.pdf
Festus Registered | 2007-02-26 12:35:22
oh my gosh, Registerfly can't pay their bill to ICANN on time.

Financial Irresponsibility is the number one cause of having security clearances revoked in the military. ICANN should have revoked their accreditation long ago base on that alone.

ICANN sucks!
nat - Toss em all in jail Registered | 2007-02-23 23:18:23
It seems to me that Glenn and John are either incredibly stupid or might not be the white knights they're making themselves out to be.

Seems to me they should be tossed in jail along with Kevin until just who screwed who can be determined.

Why the hell was none of this stuff posted on their own site before they lost control of their own servers? It seems a little strange to be airing this whole thing on this site and not a word on their own.

I sincerely hope they get everything straightened out for the sake of the people with domains in limbo. I also hope every last one of those people transfers their domains the hell out of there as fast as possible when they get control back, and Registerfly (the company, not the people) dies an agonizing death.
xhackr - re: Things are not always as t Registered | 2007-02-23 23:29:54
xhackr wrote:
As to the Miami office, filed with Florida Department of State, Division of Corporations, Kevin Medina is the sole principal of Unifiednames, Inc.

While this whole mess makes a nightmare for those affected, an entertaining, cliffhanging drama for those on the sideline watching, I think when everything comes out in the wash we will see Naruszewicz and Stansbury not the white knights they are being portrayed as.

As to the New Jersey office, filed with the State of New Jersey, Kevin Medina is the sole principal of Unifiednames, Inc.
traveltext - re: re: Registered | 2007-02-23 23:29:54
[quote=I don't think it's in anybody's best interest for RF to collapse and I feel sure that there are people working towards getting everything together, including Kevin.[/quote]

Right on. When the company is back on track and those most upset with RF move their names elsewhere, there will still be around 80 percent of the domain names left. Most domain name rigistrants would not have a clue what's going on and will stay with the company.

The real lesson from this debacle is to get legislation up that protects the rights of domain name holders so that such an event will not happen at some other company in some other time.
tann - The further the more interesti Registered | 2007-02-23 23:32:31
If Mr. K.M. is a developer of RF, it is possible he can access through holes, right. But he must be completely brainless to do that... does he know that this is a criminal thing?
And How do they know it was him? Only because he can have motivations?
wheel - re: The further the more inter Registered | 2007-02-23 23:45:01
See all the posts where I have been referring to backdoors.

tann wrote:
If Mr. K.M. is a developer of RF, it is possible he can access through holes, right. But he must be completely brainless to do that... does he know that this is a criminal thing?
And How do they know it was him? Only because he can have motivations?
wcw - Down? Registered | 2007-02-23 23:48:56
If they don't have 'control' of the system, I wonder who just sent a 30-day renewal reminder to me from Registerfly
tann - Re: Down? Registered | 2007-02-24 00:41:34
Robots still were not fired... and remeber these guys do not require selary
xhackr Registered | 2007-02-24 00:14:51
Glenn Stansbury and John Naruszewicz are not principals in this company. Their nonsense about firing Medina is just that, and this is being carried out on this site. Who knows if the kevinm posting here is in fact Kevin Media? I sure don't.

The creator of this site started out doing a very good thing and can continue that, but you cannot perpetrate unfounded information, much less untrue information.
nat wrote:

Why the hell was none of this stuff posted on their own site before they lost control of their own servers? It seems a little strange to be airing this whole thing on this site and not a word on their own.
Exactly
mopey - re: Down? Registered | 2007-02-24 00:05:56
wcw wrote:
If they don't have 'control' of the system, I wonder who just sent a 30-day renewal reminder to me from Registerfly

ahhh... the "money collection" system is still working... just nothing else is at the moment, if what i have been reading is true...

This shit is getting really exhausting...
mysteryminds - they blocked my account Registered | 2007-02-24 01:07:55
I have my 60 domain names. They've blocked me from login and I've paid for renewal 4 times which they deducted from the funds i had stored in registerfly account.

But not yet renewed the account. I've created a request to look into that its been 5 days i've been waiting from 2 days they suspended my account and asked to send mail to risk@registerflysupport.com but to my surprise the mail address is no more working as it bounces back.
I've sent mail to customersupport too.
Tried calling them up for more than 4 times waiting on hold for 45 min but nothing is happening. How can i get back my login and start to work on it as my domains are getting expired and clients are lieterally pressuring me.
captainproton - Re:they blocked my account Registered | 2007-02-24 01:27:36
Did you do any credit card chargebacks?? That could be why they blocked your account.
aqi32 Registered | 2007-02-24 02:46:16
I'f i lived in the US, i would have probably knocked on both Kevin's and the other guy's doors by now and demanded my property ( i fortunately got all domains out bar one)
Abused - LOL LOL LOL Registered | 2007-02-24 02:54:51
"I see on your main site that you say that we don’t have any access to help customers. That isn’t entirely true. We do have access but it is very limited. We just don’t have any access to make updates to the website over the weekend. I feel we will have full access back on Monday and I found out something that will most certainly have kevin arrested and put in prison for a very long time."

Does this look like the kind of comment a business with 900,000 customers would make?

I'll have a burger with chips please.

This site gets more full of bullshit every time I visit
ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-02-24 04:05:35
It appears that the RegisterFly website is all but unaccessable. I finally managed to log into my account, after almost a half hour of looking at a white screen as the site loaded. However, trying to actually do anything is either impossible or else it will take ALL NIGHT, Literally. Basically, the site isn't working any more. Not that that's actually much of a suprise, given that the domain manager seldom ever works for me anyway!

esiahc - The solution I am using to lim Registered | 2007-02-24 04:49:10
Hello guys,

Lets be constructive!
Here is what I do for those customers of mine that could be concerned by this "RegisterFly situation" in order to reduce its impact on their businesses. Apparently it works and they do not mind too much doing that :

When I suspect that their current domain name will soon stop working, I just register (with another registrar ;-) another domain name (if possible the same name than the one they are already using but with a "info" extension instead of "com", "us", "org" or "net" (with most registrars a "info" name costs only 1.99 or 2.99 $ for the first year). Then I point this new domain name to the same URL ("Parked domain") , I duplicate all their email addresses in this new domain and I create a forwarder for each of their previous addresses toward the corresponding new addresses.
Then I explain them the situation and ask them to send a mail to all of their known customers to tell them that the current domain name and email addresses they are using may stop working at any time and that, should this happen, they just have to change the extension of the domain name in the website URL and in their email address (from "com", "net", "org", "us", whatever...) to "info".
They can also put a sign on their home page to explain the situation.

Thus, there is no reason why they should be badly affected by all this mess...
I know that this works for me, at least with small and moderately big businesses...

That's just "my two cents contribution", I hope it may be of use to you...
fjensen - Report to FBI Registered | 2007-02-24 05:58:18
Simply report this to the FBI online fraud department.
http://ic3.gov
kayboski - it worked for me Registered | 2007-02-24 06:26:35
After reading all this, I logged to my regfly account without much hope to change nameservers of my most profitable domain after my server got destroyed.. thought I will join the club of people going bankrupt because of regfly. but... it worked perfectly. Even faster than before. Not really fast (regfly != speed) but it worked...
PC Medic - re: Registered | 2007-02-24 06:30:41
wheel wrote:
It's upto the data center to pull the server at this time. It seems registerfly is using sagonet's IP space. sagonet is responsible via SWIP for abuse. So, it's time the data center get involved as their IP space is being used abusively.


And that would accomplish 'nothing' but to prevent those of us with domains registered there 'any' chance of accessing our accounts. Over the past two days I have now been able to (albeit slowly at times) access my account, get response emails to transfer requests, unlock those domains I need to and enable them for transfers that until then were being denied due to ClientRestriction settings.

So while it may be taking some time for them to get control of the servers after Mr Medina's alleged criminal activity, they are making attempts to do so which I for one am grateful.

Doing as you suggest would be no more than a knee-jerk reaction by the hosting service whom I am sure by now has gotten more detail on the situation than the web rumor mill is providing.
PC Medic - re: Data Center Registered | 2007-02-24 06:39:31
wheel wrote:
Ok, now that we know the server(s) are comprimised, is there anyway for the "proper" management to call the datacenter and ask them to null the IP's or SHUT DOWN the server(s)? It's better registerfly is DOWN vs running comprimised.


And how pray-tell would the legitimate management team then access the server to sort things and return everyone control of their accounts/domains. That is after all the goal is it not?

No shutting the servers down would do nothing, but create a bigger issue. Not to mention more folks screaming 'I can't login to my accounts'.

Rather than block a specific IP however, perhaps they should look at only allowing 'specific' IP's (current management) remote access to administrative areas of the server.
PC Medic - re: Registered | 2007-02-24 06:49:01
oliveuk wrote:
Here is what I sent to Sagonet.com

[i]"I am one of the 900.000 disgruntled Registerfly customers. Supposedly one of their ex employees fled with all their customer details and keeps running the website hosted by your company for his own account.

Uninformed customers keep paying for their renewal fees, not knowing who they are sending their money to and not getting their domain names renewed.

You can find more informations on the following website http://registerflies.com/index.php"[/i]

What else should we do?


Problem with this approach is that due to its past history, this site (registerflies.com) would probably not be considered a reliable source of information. More like a 'hostile witness' in a court case.

I am not knocking this site as there is 'some' useful info coming through. Only pointing out how this would most likely be viewed.
PC Medic - re: Down? Registered | 2007-02-24 07:07:09
wcw wrote:
If they don't have 'control' of the system, I wonder who just sent a 30-day renewal reminder to me from Registerfly


They are automated.
mopey - strange way to compromise the Registered | 2007-02-24 07:35:50
since the servers at RF have been "compromised" I am now able to see all my auth codes, able to unlock domains, update name servers and so on...

I wonder who is the real problem here or could it be that all the words are just BS and the real story is something else altogether!?
Npr - re: strange way to compromise Registered | 2007-02-24 08:06:38
mopey wrote:
since the servers at RF have been "compromised" I am now able to see all my auth codes, able to unlock domains, update name servers and so on...


I still can't see my authcodes it just says "Auth Code".

How did you get it and where you able to transfer it?
outahere - Transfers Registered | 2007-02-24 08:32:03
We are being played. Please remember, we are dealing with sociopaths here (and it's not just Medina, either). Try to think along those lines. I think the auth codes, DNS changes, etc, are all smoke screens. I got my auth codes and unlocked everything and initiated transfers the other day. My new registrar got everything going right away but guess where the process stalled?

Quote:
Transfer Pending - Awaiting Release by Current Registrar


Based on what I have seen, there is no way RF is going to release these names for transfer unless some 3rd party forces them to. They can do whatever they want and and blame it on the "hijacker." Maybe they will allow some people to get through make some changes. They may even allow some transfers. That will get people energized and they, in turn, will report back here and then everyone will get all excited. But the bulk of these domains are being held hostage by wanton criminals and that's the way it will stay unless someone can stop them. That is as plain as the nose on my face.

Nothing short of some reliable 3rd party taking over the data can help us. Of course, by the time it's all sorted out, we all lose because this stuff cannot sit in mothballs. We have work to do and clients to satisfy. I have resigned myself to losing a domain which is due to expire in less than 30 days. I hope this all gets sorted in time to save another one that is not due for renewal for months. Days ago, I deleted all my credit card info from RF's site and will not send them any money. If they initiate any charges, I am going to dispute them with my credit card company and possibly file criminal complaints.

This is not going to end well for anybody. All we can hope for is some justice in the end. A very sad story indeed.
gelo Registered | 2007-02-24 08:23:22
Yeah, another BS. Admin, tell me honestly, are you making all these news up? Because from all this lawlessness you're describing I get an impression it's happening somewhere in Somali and not in USA.
freddieb - Lawlessness Registered | 2007-02-24 14:13:04
Why pick on Somali?

USA has an excellent record of criminals and lawlessness dating back 300 years!

Don't forget people like Jesse James, Al Capone etc. etc.

Crims have an easy time in US from what I observe.
Sun - re: Transfers Registered | 2007-02-24 09:40:32
Failure by the Registrar of Record to respond within five (5) calendar days to a notification from the Registry regarding a transfer request will result in a default "approval" of the transfer.

see here: http://www.icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm


outahere wrote:
We are being played. Please remember, we are dealing with sociopaths here (and it's not just Medina, either). Try to think along those lines. I think the auth codes, DNS changes, etc, are all smoke screens. I got my auth codes and unlocked everything and initiated transfers the other day. My new registrar got everything going right away but guess where the process stalled?

Quote:
Transfer Pending - Awaiting Release by Current Registrar


Based on what I have seen, there is no way RF is going to release these names for transfer unless some 3rd party forces them to. They can do whatever they want and and blame it on the "hijacker." Maybe they will allow some people to get through make some changes. They may even allow some transfers. That will get people energized and they, in turn, will report back here and then everyone will get all excited. But the bulk of these domains are being held hostage by wanton criminals and that's the way it will stay unless someone can stop them. That is as plain as the nose on my face.

Nothing short of some reliable 3rd party taking over the data can help us. Of course, by the time it's all sorted out, we all lose because this stuff cannot sit in mothballs. We have work to do and clients to satisfy. I have resigned myself to losing a domain which is due to expire in less than 30 days. I hope this all gets sorted in time to save another one that is not due for renewal for months. Days ago, I deleted all my credit card info from RF's site and will not send them any money. If they initiate any charges, I am going to dispute them with my credit card company and possibly file criminal complaints.

This is not going to end well for anybody. All we can hope for is some justice in the end. A very sad story indeed.
outahere - re: Transfers Registered | 2007-02-24 13:24:56
Sun wrote:
Failure by the Registrar of Record to respond within five (5) calendar days to a notification from the Registry regarding a transfer request will result in a default "approval" of the transfer.

see here: http://www.icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm


I hope you are right. I've seen that before but I just have the feeling that RF will find a way to deny the transfer through some BS they pull. I have ZERO confidence in ICANN to follow through on it. They gave them 15 days to do what? It's like telling crooks you have 15 days to move the money you stole into a Swiss bank account and get yourself out the of the country. I will believe the transfers only when I see them.
andy - wow Registered | 2007-02-24 09:50:27
Hi folks

On a unrelated (kind of) note

I'm andy kelly and Ive been in the domain reselling business for 4 years, im an active member of dnforum (username dreamking) and namepros (bargaindomains) Ive got 100% trader ratings on both sites and I too have received no end of trouble from registerfly.
This is my first post and it wont be my last.
The owner of this site is a very good friend of mine and has been for 3 years.
Hats off to him for creating this excellent and much needed online facility.
For the few of you who are perhaps so cynical after so many bad experiences from registerfly.com please let me assure you that the registerflies.com site owner is a genuine guy who has placed a massive amount of time (and continues to do so)into helping to highlight issues and even more importantly establishing a much needed facility to finally redress them.
Indirectly I feel a little guilty as it was me who introduced him to registerfly in the first place.
msgia Registered | 2007-02-24 10:38:59
Thank you andy. I certainly appreciate the site that admin has set up here. It gives me some sense of connection to others who are experiencing the same issues. And at least I know I am not alone out here in this mess that registerfly has created for its customers. So I keep coming back here to read the posts and see what's going on in the chat room. To see what I can do to possibly help by submitting complaints to various agencies and news outlets. So kudos to admin and all of the others who support and appreciate this site.
outahere - re: wow Registered | 2007-02-24 13:36:26
Andy, sometimes, it's hard to tell who's who on the Internet but I like the way you present yourself and it gives me more confidence in the admin of this site. I can tell you that I would never trust whoever wrote the RF statements. As I stated before, it has the stink of a self-obsessed, narcissistic sociopath. I can also say that all of you speculating that eNom is somehow involved in this scheme, that my dealings with them lead me to be believe otherwise. I got great CS from them but even if you didn't, bad CS is different from out-and-out thievery--which is what RF is doing.
A Cherry On Top - Big Scandel Registered | 2007-02-24 09:45:48
I hope all this disaster and big mess will shake up the domain industry and get ICANN to Get their organization to be able to handle these situations much better, swifter and forcefully in the future. RF have made a laughing stock of ICANN and showing how pathetic and how powerless they are.

THIS CAN NOT EVER HAPPEN AGAIN - PEOPLE WE NEED TO STAND UNITED AND PROTECT OUR PROPERTY FROM THESE CRIMMINALS IN THE FUTURE.

Make sure you all take the time to write to ICANN and the Authorities, Newspapers, TV stations and Media and let them all know about this huge Internet Scandel.
kimvette Editor | 2007-02-24 19:09:12
ICANN is an impotent organization which did nothing to address thousands of customer complaints. They only stepped in after RegisterFly feel into arrears by over $100K.
rowedf - why was it deleted before? Registered | 2007-02-24 09:57:32
This is all a farce .... I believe this "Medina" guy or whoever it is all made up, it could be a real person, but its a joke what registerfly is doing. Just get you crap fixed without all this fictional drama.
mopey - re: re: strange way to comprom Registered | 2007-02-24 10:10:08
Npr wrote:

I still can't see my authcodes it just says "Auth Code".

How did you get it and where you able to transfer it?

Following the instructions found here... going to my account, try to change the whois info and it was at the bottom left corner. But you are right, it appears and disappears... I transferred to ENOM just to play the cards close. Once the storms are over, then will see where to finally transfer to... its just going to be one long hassle...
kimvette Editor | 2007-02-24 19:07:58
Focus on documenting ownership of your domains. Take screenshots of your account.

If you do not know how to take screenshots check out the brief tutorial I put together:

http://kim.biyn.com/RegisterFly_Woes
Takaya - I just renewed Registered | 2007-02-24 10:14:09
Finally i could have renewed my domain name. I hope this is real.

I don't care who is bad guy who is angel. I just care my domains. I'm sick of this situation...
TomJaworowski - re: Registered | 2007-02-24 11:09:54
blakilox wrote:
Does USA have like a Minister for Telecomunications a government office, a higher authority than ICANN?


I believe ICANN is on its own now since some time this summer one ICANN was released from the authority of the US Government into a now Global Corporation with no high authority above it.
Savo Registered | 2007-02-24 20:07:56
I guess the best is to put ICANN as well into court as they are FAR too slow in stepping in!
A blind man would see better in time than ICANN.
A Cherry On Top - RF CLONED - CLONED Registered | 2007-02-24 20:31:38
Hello, The Registerfly website has apparently been CLONED by KEVIN MEDINA.. here : http://www.registerfly-inc.com/

So now they have 2 X as many chances of defrauding everyone

This is a sick Joke - This Madness needs to be STOPPED NOW!!!

Here is a good news article I just found:

http://dnhelp.blogspot.com/2007/02/registerfly-has-flown.html
outahere - original source Registered | 2007-02-24 20:40:06
Why not point to the original source of the story instead of a blog that simply copied the entire story?

http://story.malaysiasun.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/d805653303cbbba8/id/230159/cs/1/
sojo - A Cherry On Top - NO IT HASN' Registered | 2007-02-26 09:11:01
to: A Cherry On Top

The site was not cloned - it's just a domain forward. I'm sure it's exsited for a few years. If you go to it and click on any of the links the URL stays the same. IF you mouse over any link and copy it's location you will see that they still ALL POINT to the Registerfly.com main site.

Now, I can't speak on whether the site's been hacked or not ... i can't still log into my acct (still can't do anything once i'm there, but that's nothing new).
Abused - re: A Cherry On Top - NO IT HA Registered | 2007-02-24 22:16:58
sojo wrote:
to: A Cherry On Top

The site was not cloned - it's just a domain forward. I'm sure it's excited for a few years. If you go to it and click on any of the links the URL stays the same. IF you mouse over any link and copy it's location you will see that they still ALL POINT to the Registerfly.com main site.

Now, I can't speak on whether the site's been hacked or not ... i can't still log into my acct (still can't do anything once i'm there, but that's nothing new).


Yes your absolutely right ALL the links point to registerfly.com, it is of no use
udiggity - re: Transfers Registered | 2007-02-24 23:58:26
Mine went through fine took 2.5 days but it worked fine, Im sending my second one through now.


outahere wrote:
We are being played. Please remember, we are dealing with sociopaths here (and it's not just Medina, either). Try to think along those lines. I think the auth codes, DNS changes, etc, are all smoke screens. I got my auth codes and unlocked everything and initiated transfers the other day. My new registrar got everything going right away but guess where the process stalled?

Quote:
Transfer Pending - Awaiting Release by Current Registrar


Based on what I have seen, there is no way RF is going to release these names for transfer unless some 3rd party forces them to. They can do whatever they want and and blame it on the "hijacker." Maybe they will allow some people to get through make some changes. They may even allow some transfers. That will get people energized and they, in turn, will report back here and then everyone will get all excited. But the bulk of these domains are being held hostage by wanton criminals and that's the way it will stay unless someone can stop them. That is as plain as the nose on my face.

Nothing short of some reliable 3rd party taking over the data can help us. Of course, by the time it's all sorted out, we all lose because this stuff cannot sit in mothballs. We have work to do and clients to satisfy. I have resigned myself to losing a domain which is due to expire in less than 30 days. I hope this all gets sorted in time to save another one that is not due for renewal for months. Days ago, I deleted all my credit card info from RF's site and will not send them any money. If they initiate any charges, I am going to dispute them with my credit card company and possibly file criminal complaints.

This is not going to end well for anybody. All we can hope for is some justice in the end. A very sad story indeed.
outahere - re: re: Transfers Registered | 2007-02-25 06:06:08
udiggity wrote:
Mine went through fine took 2.5 days but it worked fine, Im sending my second one through now.


It looks like you are correct. Mine seem to be in the process. For once, I am happy to be wrong.
fjkd2 - re: RF CLONED - CLONED Registered | 2007-02-25 00:20:00
A Cherry On Top wrote:
Hello, The Registerfly website has apparently been CLONED by KEVIN MEDINA.. here : http://www.registerfly-inc.com/

So now they have 2 X as many chances of defrauding everyone


I want kindly disagree with Your opinion and style of posting. Please check before "screaming" about something goes wrong. I think that all present and past customers of RF are aware that situation is BAD and not FUNNY (or JOKE).

In my opinion such kind of "screaming" makes more unnecessary confusion for more experienced users than helps.

In subject of registerfly-inc.com please take a look for whois info. It's OLD domain registered over 3 years ago, so I think that thesis that it's provided for defrauding is high UNBELIEVABLE. That domain just EXIST. No more no less and like many other corporate domains are redirected how sojo, abused post before me.

Registration Service Provided By: RegisterFly.com
Visit: http://www.RegisterFly.com


Domain name: registerfly-inc.com

Registrant Contact:
Unifiednames,inc.
Kevin Medina (kevin@unifiednames.com)
254ElmwyndDrive
Orange, NJ 07050
US
+1.9737580880
Fax:+1.9737580880


Technical Contact:
Unifiednames,inc.
Kevin Medina (kevin@unifiednames.com)
254ElmwyndDrive
Orange, NJ 07050
US
+1.9737580880
Fax:+1.9737580880


Admin Contact:
Unifiednames,inc.
Kevin Medina (kevin@unifiednames.com)
254ElmwyndDrive
Orange, NJ 07050
US
+1.9737580880
Fax:+1.9737580880


DNS servers:
dns3.registerfly.com
dns2.registerfly.com
dns1.registerfly.com


Status: LOCKED

Created: 2003-11-03 17:22:16
Expires: 2007-11-03 16:22:16
nightflight - ICANN, VeriSIgn, ENOM, Regfly Registered | 2007-02-25 01:07:05
If i were living in the US I woul walk to the nearest Police HQ and report ICANN, VeriSIgn, ENOM, Regfly all together as a criminal organization designed to steal domain properties.

They are all doing business together and a few hundred thousand victims are affected by their proven collaboration.

It is a case for Police, FBI, Attorneys and lawyers. But Obviously, there is no more real law system in America.

Anyway, someone should put in a few $ to break the bones of thugs at ICANN. They creamed off from regfly gangsters and deserve to be beaten to cripple state.


Gangster vs. Gangster
Dante - Transfer working Registered | 2007-02-25 03:54:35
WOHA! I just managed to move domains.. took 2 days to get the "Pending Current Registrar Approval" at go daddy to go away and get the "Transfer away request" email from regfly. Anyone else manage to move?
Sun - re: Transfer working Registered | 2007-02-25 04:33:44
me too !!!!

WOW ... out of mess now.

Dante wrote:
WOHA! I just managed to move domains.. took 2 days to get the "Pending Current Registrar Approval" at go daddy to go away and get the "Transfer away request" email from regfly. Anyone else manage to move?
outahere - re: re: Transfer working Registered | 2007-02-25 06:11:47
Quote:
... Anyone else manage to move?


I just got e-mail from RF asking to confirm transfers so hopefully it is working of me. Keeping fingers crossed.
fitzgerald99 - Re: Transfer Working Registered | 2007-02-25 05:15:51
Hi

How did you manage it? My Pending Transfers to GoDaddy all show up as "Authorization Required", and the admin email is listed as "Support@RegisterFly.com". GoDaddy have told me their hands are tied until RegisterFly responds to those emails.

Is there another way?
outahere - re: Re: Transfer Working Registered | 2007-02-25 06:38:11
fitzgerald99 wrote:
Hi

How did you manage it? My Pending Transfers to GoDaddy all show up as "Authorization Required", and the admin email is listed as "Support@RegisterFly.com". GoDaddy have told me their hands are tied until RegisterFly responds to those emails.

Is there another way?


From what I've been told (see messages above), as long as you have the authorization codes and the domains are unlocked, it will take place no matter what within 5 business days. Good luck!
Dante Registered | 2007-02-25 05:40:04
Only domains with contacts going to my admin email worked. I still can't get auth codes for some and can't change contact details for the rest.
longben - Regisrefly SUCKS Registered | 2007-02-25 06:12:51
Hi

Nice to know that Kevin was knowing long time before that registerfly sucks like hell:

Registrant:
Unifiednames, inc.
254 Elmwynd Drive
Orange, NJ 07050
US

Domain name: REGISTERFLYSUCKS.COM

Administrative Contact:
Kevin Medina, - Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by DomainTools.com
254 Elmwynd Drive
Orange, NJ 07050
US
9737580880 Fax: 8883145646

Technical Contact:
Kevin Medina, - Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by DomainTools.com
254 Elmwynd Drive
Orange, NJ 07050
US
9737580880 Fax: 8883145646



Registrar of Record: REGISTERFLY.COM, INC.
Record last updated on 13-Sep-2006.
Record expires on 01-Apr-2007.
Record created on 01-Apr-2002.

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM 69.25.142.1
DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM 216.52.184.230
DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM 63.251.92.193
DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM 64.74.96.242
DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM 70.42.37.1


Domain status: ok
bcity - fu** Registered | 2007-02-25 06:46:40
only want to unlock my domains !!
A Cherry On Top Registered | 2007-02-25 09:57:46
Quote:
Nice to know that Kevin was knowing long time before that registerfly sucks like hell:

hahaha good one longben
udiggity Registered | 2007-02-25 11:59:27
Yeah I have moved 4 domains, I am working on the rest now... So far so good
outahere - Done deal Registered | 2007-02-25 13:57:29
The last of my transfers just went through. Hooray! Now, the only thing left to do is dispute the $8.99 left in my RF account with paypal. Good luck to all of you still battling the beast.
Nexious IP:87.118.110.163 | 2007-02-25 13:35:31
I'm down to just two domains still managed through Registerfly and just $10-20 out from a renewal attempt that did not work. One of the domains will hopefully get pushed over to eNom in the next couple days, and I have no intention of renewing the other one regardless, since it is never used.

I don't have time to read all of these SOB stories from the "new" owners or the complicated mess behind it, nor do I care who really owns or doesn't own the site. I'm sorry for all who have lost hundreds and thousands of dollars because of Registerfly's fraud. I hope that the "business" comes crashing down in the most humiliating way for what they've put us all through.
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-25 17:53:53
Does ANYONE know if we can get are authorization codes if they're invalid? Mine shows RRP. Which is incorrect. Anyone know of a way?

RF won't help, we know this.
klinkeye Registered | 2007-02-25 23:10:36
You guys are funny...

All arguing and fighting about whats real and what isnt. I dont know the real story... but if you believe ANYTHING you read allegedly released from "Registerfly" then the joke is on you.

Believe nothing, question everything.
jigordon - New host suggestion Registered | 2007-02-25 23:20:20
Hi all.

I just found this site after finally moving all of my domains off registerfly the other day. I knew something was up when I called tech support four times in 2 days and got the same guy all four times.

Anyways, I would suggest you move to bluehost.com. I get nothing for it, they're just a lifesaver for me (and 6 of my domains) and I thought other people would be interested in moving to a really great host, too.

~Jeff
www.licensinghandbook.com
sirchadlington - New registrars? Registered | 2007-02-25 23:51:34
avatar Hey guys

What is the best registrars to move to?

I am forced to move to ENOM to get some of my domains pushed back to me from RF... but then I dont know what I'll do from there to keep on ENOM or not

Also... I have a dozen other domains that have RF as the registrar that need transfering from RF. So far Ive been able to get them unlocked and get all their auth codes... but I need to let it propagate in the whois... and i dont know if it's going to transfer properly since Ive heard all these horror stories on here.

WHO SHOULD I TRUST WITH MY DOMAINS?

GoDaddy? They seem to be trusted and are doing well on BBB.

NAMECHEAP? I have a dozen domains with these guys... and I think they are great... but now that I look at BBB... they are rated REAL bad!!! I dont know why, I haven't had a problem. But now with RF going down, I am scared shitless of NameCheap being a bad company or something...

SUGGESTIONS? Anyone else use namecheap? Who can I trust?!

my email: sirchadlington - at gmail . com
Samson - Namecheap Registered | 2007-02-26 00:49:31
Namecheap is another eNom reseller. Use at your own risk.

Godaddy has other heinous problems to worry about. They tend toward the kneejerk reaction of pulling your domain out from under you if someone doesn't like what you say. http://www.nodaddy.com

Me, I've moved my domains over to http://www.1and1.com and so far they seem to be doing a fine job. I've pestered the poor tech people plenty of times in the last 3 weeks and they are always able to give me a straight answer. So that's an option to consider. No ICANN accreditation but we've seen exactly how much that's worth anyway.
sojo - 1and1 Registered | 2007-02-26 09:14:03
I use 1and1 too. They are the cheapest and they just plain work with no hassle.

http://www.1and1.com
Nordgard Registered | 2007-02-26 03:32:46
@REVELATIONDESIGN

I also have one domain with the Auth code RRP. Thought it was strange, but thats what it said.

Have tried to transfer it together with the rest.

What happend to Your transfer?
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-26 08:22:12
Its in an "Invalid Auth Code" state at the winning registrar. Nothing they or I can do. RFLY is the only one that can help - and sadly, that will probably not occur. All I can say is keep on ICANN, complain.
pault70 - Domain revenue disappeared - a Registered | 2007-02-26 02:19:16
What a mess.

I managed to get most of my domains away before the sh*t really hit the fan after losing a couple of fairly valuable domains in December 2006.

Get this, I had a domain parked with rfly for around 5 years. I sold the domain in December and went in to check and extract the revenue (site was receiving 30000+ uniques/month) All trace of the domain revenue has gone!

So far, 4 support tickets on the subject have been deleted.

What can I do?
dntech - WHERE ARE JOHN AND GLEN? Registered | 2007-02-26 08:40:34
If they are serious about fixing this they should be posting updates here at least everyday.

WHERE THE F*CK ARE THEY?
tatacaca - https://www.godaddy.com/regist Registered | 2007-02-26 09:00:15
Oh come on guys, you can't really believe that actually there are "good" and "evil" boys in this situation.
They're all struggling to gain power, and money. No-one is here to save you.

John and Glenn and whoever perfectly knew what was happening, there are gripe sites in the internet dating back to 2003 !!!!! 2003 i say!

Even icann sent that notice only because they want 7.000$ back. If you read ALL the pdf document that's the real reason.

Anyhow i've moved to godaddy all my domains, yesterday have successfully transfered the last one, YEEAAH .... there's a special offer for registerfly user, it's a company in the stock market, with 1.400 real employees - not outsourced to india or such - so they're not likely to fall apart, they even had the money to advertise at superbowl, and they manage alone 25% of ALL the internet domains.

Prices are good, and transfer speed was excellent, i don't see any reason to not move from r-fly to the market leader godaddy. They also accept paypal and CASH, that way they will never withdraw money away from your cards without consent

Another good registrar, for the ones asking suggestions, is moniker.com and mydomain.com

The latter one unfortunately doesn't accept paypal. And after this bad experience with r-fly i'm not gonna give my card details anymore, only paypal.
sirchadlington Registered | 2007-02-26 15:34:41
avatar nodaddy.com

GoDaddy has had it's issues too... lots of them. And recently too. They may have decent support and BBB status... but their TOS seem to be really against the domain owner as they can terminate your account and freeze domains just from petty complaints from anyone... read nodaddy

I do agree though that GoDaddy is the leader in the domain market and there is a VERY low chance they will collapse. However, I personally don't feel 100% safe with keeping my domain secure with them right now.

Namecheap is my choice atm. And if GoDaddy get me to change my mind, I can always switch over to them in 60 days.
bcity - re Registered | 2007-02-26 11:06:43
yes,i would like to transfer my domains away from shitlies...but my domains are LOCKED and i can´t unlock them.

SPECIAL OFFER from Godaddy ? please tell me more !!
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-26 12:29:43
http://www.godaddy.com/registerfly

and

Godaddy CEO Bob Parsons, about Register Fly.

http://www.bobparsons.com/RegisterflyScandal.html
Samson - !Godaddy Registered | 2007-02-26 14:08:43
A serious amount of caution is needed re: Godaddy: http://www.nodaddy.com
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-26 14:34:36
I have seen this and can understand that would anger people. I myself have never had a problem to date. Though I haven't been there a long time...but I just feel everything will be ok.

I will say I was AMAZED when Godaddy CALLED me to welcome me as a customer. I didnt receive the first call and they asked that I call back. I thought something was wrong. Nope, "We just wanted to say Welcome".

Now, coming from RFLY. That absolutely floored me.
tatacaca - that nodaddy is bullshit Registered | 2007-02-26 14:50:13
Nodaddy website actually make me happy to have an account with godaddy.

I can't see as fair use to put a list of some thousand of kids user/password myspace logins.

I can't understand why any "normal" people should be concerned by that.

The only conclusion i can draw is "if you're a spammer don't go with godaddy".

I don't care.

I'm a godaddy customer since several years and i'm more than happy. After the r-fly fiasco i felt ashamed to actually have registered some domains with them instead of the common-choice godaddy just to save 6 bucks on the whois protection.
I've lost a lot of time and money just to save some bucks, i won't do the same error again just for a stupid principle matter. godaddy all the life
sirchadlington Registered | 2007-02-26 15:39:29
avatar I personally don't know anyone that has had a horror story, and I"m sure their horror story count is much less than regfly! lol

I am a freelancer, and 99% of my clients bought their domains with godaddy. Plus... GoDaddy is advertised on DIGGnation which I love. I have no doubt they are a decent company.

Personally I just don't like the godaddy site... it is too cluttered for my liking and just signing up with their site to get an account showed how much they rely on sponsors and advertising. They recently redid their domain control panel... but still... the main site is still cluttered in my opinion.

At the moment I just need a stable and easy-to-use registrar with such a simple interface that works flawlessly. I think namecheap is that answer...

what do you guys think?
Samson Registered | 2007-02-26 21:12:46
Keep in mind the guy who runs seclists.org didn't personally post a list of Myspace passwords. His listing bots merely archived it as a result of their normal run.

The thing that should be scaring people is that Godaddy did it with no court order, 52 seconds notice to the domain owner, and without even verifying the facts first.

So suppose, oh, lets say... a hate site about Registerfly springs up. The person who owns the domain used Godaddy to register it. Now suppose, oh, say... Kevin, John, or Glenn ( whoever is still in control ) calls Godaddy and says the site has personal information up like home addresses, phone numbers, vehicle license plates, cell numbers, and perhaps their social security numbers. Now suppose the accusation is bullshit. Would you be so quick to support Godaddy if they yanked the domain on 52 seconds notice without bothering to try and contact the domain owner?

Go look up the article about this on Cnet.com if you don't believe me.
ebiz1 Registered | 2007-02-27 12:34:56
You should also highly consider Moniker.com. They've been great to work with and told me they won't charge for failures, will work w/ICANN if needed, etc, same as GoDaddy.
jax1492 - thanks revelationdesign !!! Registered | 2007-02-26 12:59:54
awesome post revelationdesign im going to switch to godaddy asap .... thanks
mcangeli - ok... so... Registered | 2007-02-26 15:46:44
Well, my enom held names are now safely on enom... which more expensive than godaddy... may have to move to gd. Too many people have recommended them.....

I *was* going to give RF the benefit of the doubt, however, it should not take a week to regain control of your servers or have a backup server in place no matter where you are.
kimvette Editor | 2007-02-26 21:30:47
Sadly, justice is not swift.
sirchadlington - Announcement Registered | 2007-02-26 22:39:48
avatar ya... i think this news announcement is getting old now.

REGFLY doesnt seem 'hacked' anymore... its working decently now.. most of the features are working like auth codes and lock/unlocking

this site needs to give us news!!!! UPDATES!!! whats going on now?
oshea_in_hell - Here is an update.... Registered | 2007-03-02 18:54:37
I had just purchased four new domains (not a lot of money) just before discovering this site. I had been trying at the same time to get my hosted email accounts up (which were down), but nameservice seemed OK at the time, and I thought the issue was a temporary issue.

Well in the meantime, RF has been melting down, and I have moved all my established domains out. I am out, I am so happy.

However, I had these four domains that I could not move out, since they were in 60 day LOCK with RF, and could not be unlocked because of the normal (ICANN approved) 60-day new-register lock. So I was stuck.

However, a week later, I have come to realize that the domains were never purchased by RF (though they dilligently billed my credit card). Fortunately, I had payed using a credit card, and I and RF are in the U.S., so it is a relatively easy matter to dispute the charges for services not rendered.

However, it is somewhat horrible to see that registerfly is taking money in and not performing registrations. These domains were purchased recently 2/23 and billed 2/26.

Anyway, because RF apparently didn't actually register these names according to several independent whois lookups, I simply bought them at another registrar. So, I don't have to even worry about transfering these 4 names- so in a way it was easier.

I would warn EVERYONE away from ANY further monitary infusions into RF. They are just taking money, and not providing services. I assume to cover their back overdue payments to ICANN. ICANN has given them the ultimatum to pay or be dis-accredited. (They are also threatened with disaccreditation for a number of other independent issues).

In my case, I will get the money back because I used a credit card, and if anyone will have to "eat" the charges, it will be the credit card company. But those paying using PAYPAL, or other electronic crediting schemes probably have no recourse. So I would have to just say- don't do it. Just use a different registrar.
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