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Thursday, 22 February 2007

5:28 PM Est. today Feb. 22, 2007.  We have a statement from Registerfly.

After brief phone conversation with John Naruszewicz he said that they have the statement and I had received this from them in word format in it's entirety.  Please read on!


 

We at Registerfly.Com would like to offer our sincere apologies to all that have been affected by the actions of our former CEO / President, Kevin Medina. We cannot change the past but will make every effort to change the future of RegisterFly.com. As a result of Mr. Medina's actions many of you have lost your domains, experienced problems with your Hosting, Renewals and Registrations. For this reason Mr. Medina's our "Board of Directors" had no recourse but to take action against Mr. Medina and fire him.

Law suits against Mr. Medina have also been filed in Federal Court for his actions as well as criminal charges. Copies of Mr. Medina's Termination Letter, Board of Directors Resolution and Court Filings can be seen on Registerflies.com. We will continue to provide all court documents and post updates on Registerflies.com as well. Currently we can not provide any information on the criminal charges as it is an on going investigation yet we will provide that data once we are told we are allowed to by law enforcement.

Our intention is to keep all concerned updated with the true facts that surround this matter. It appears that the only way is for Kevin Medina to be arrested and eventually see jail time. While we know that this will not cure the damage that has been done, Glenn and I, John Naruszewicz, are seeking all that we can on behalf of our treasured and valued customers.

Our priority number one is our customers we have and even the customers that we have lost. For the customers who have not been affected by all of this we assure you that you will have your domain name with a safe and strong company. Another major focus is to build a customer support group that will give you the customer support you deserve and unlike anything currently seen in the industry. Unfortunately this will take some time to do and we ask for your patience and understanding while we build a new support group.

Many of you may or may not know that Mr. Medina fired all employees shortly before Christmas with the exception of 8 that remain in our New Jersey office. John Naruszewicz was able to save these important jobs by personally paying the staff with his own funds. Mr. Medina agreed to a contract with myself that he was to open an office in Miami. Since Mr. Medina was never good with customer support I felt it best that he have no interaction with customers and only ran the back office. Mr. Medina violated this contract by hiring 7 people for Third Level Support. These people had little to no knowledge of the domain name industry let alone even knew what DNS was. The horrific level of support that was offered from January onward is proof of this.

Many have asked why our customer service reps could not perform the necessary tasks that you as the customer needed done. The reason behind that was "Control".  The NJ Customer Service Reps. did not have the functionality to do what they needed to be done. Mr. Medina, as many do not know, wrote the entire Registerfly.com website and had full and total control of its data. After his termination, Mr. Medina deleted email accounts, access to support tools, and access for our risk/billing department to issue refunds.

Going forward all CSR's will have the ability to do any task that is asked of them, there will be no more transferring from one department to another. We will be using the "one and done" philosophy from here in out. The other priority is training. We will make sure that when you reach a Customer Service Rep. you will have reached a person that can perform the necessary task to correct your problem.

Contrary to the old attitude or business practices of the prior President/CEO we care about you, our customers. We will make every effort to insure that the practices of the past and the problems of the past are just that; the past. There will be no room for this in the future and 100% effort and execution will become the normal.

We are assembling what we want to call the dream team and it will be through this team that we will provide the direction for all RegisterFly.com employees to follow.

As the new President/CEO, I, John Naruszewicz, have personally pledged all of my personal assets to make all of this happen. I've mortgaged my home, leveraged all assets, and am in the stages of securing large letters of credit to bring this company forward properly. I've devoted these funds to RegisterFly.com so that we will be able to provide the products and service you need and deserve.

I've been very fortunate to have invested wisely and worked very hard for what I have. Now I am giving everything that I know of as I truly am concerned about our customers and an honest and ethically run company. While my investment may not solve the problems of the past it will ensure the future business of all of our customers. I came from nothing and do not have a privileged past. I understand better than most what it is like to make that extra $80 a month off of a domain name. There were times when I didn't have money for food or heat for my home. That extra money was my lifeblood and I would have been harmed if I lost it. I understand! Mr. Medina is a selfish, cold hearted, self loving, criminal. He will only understand what he has done when he is finally in prison.

Our goal is not to be the biggest but to be known as a company with great products, great pricing, but most of all the best, and most ethical, customer support and service that can be provided. You our customers have suffered the most and for those who are still with us we thank you! To those who have left we offer our sincerest apologies. This will not change the past but we are working on regaining your trust and we're currently seeking a solution for the problems caused. We hope that perhaps, in the future, when you see what we have to offer you will give us a try again and also stick with us as we're though our worst part. We do not wish to dwell in the past but to learn from the past and assure you that this will never happen again.

I will never forget a comment that I've recently read on Registerflies.com. It read something like: "I don't care about any internal problems with Registerfly.com. I only care that I have a safe place to keep my domain names". Who ever said those words is a very wise person and I guarantee them and all customers that you do and will have a very safe place to keep your domains.

The next few weeks are crucial and we see Registerfly.com bouncing back to a level that it was at before and even exceeding expectations of prior days. Please join us in our efforts as, without our customers, what business do we really have?


 

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brian - Registerfly Tech Registered | 2007-02-22 16:59:20
I just got off the phone with a tech from registerfly.The only answer I got from him is that he can't log into the system. It would be great to hear from a tech that can do something in the system.I told him I needed nameservers changed,he got my domain name,but never asked for the new nameservers.And if thats not enough you can't understand half of what the say..If they can't speak clear english,they shouldn't be answering the phones....
brian Registered | 2007-02-22 17:02:33
Maybe, John Naruszewicz, needs to call his own tech support and really see how they help.....
skyecom Registered | 2007-02-22 17:03:42
No time for words, we need action!!
brian Registered | 2007-02-22 17:07:28
Put the people that can log into the system on the phones and support tickets..lets see some things happen!!!
downdoggy Registered | 2007-02-22 17:08:08
avatar I like the part:

I will never forget a comment that I've recently read on Registerflies.com. It read something like: "I don't care about any internal problems with Registerfly.com. I only care that I have a safe place to keep my domain names". Who ever said those words is a very wise person and I guarantee them and all customers that you do and will have a very safe place to keep your domains.
TLinson - Glass cracked again... Registered | 2007-02-22 17:08:14
Sheeeesh I hate to be so cynical, but... My bullshiat meter just pegged so hard that the display glass cracked again.

Still not a word of what's going on at the RegisterFly website, still no unlocking of domains, still no refunding improper charges, still nothing in the way of support - in fact apparently we're still being routed/outsourced to Pakistan, Bangladesh or wherever it is that Frank, Dave, and Mary really live (cause' it sure as hell ain't Jersey). Still nothing but a plan and a promise.

People are losing their domains daily, and even worse, some are losing their businesses. We're waiting Mr.Naruszewicz, not that we have any choice, please show us that you're truly serious about making this fiasco right.
mikefast - OK, When? Registered | 2007-02-22 17:08:17
WHEN will we be able to renew our domains that have expired?
zakofrax - Crap Registered | 2007-02-22 17:08:50
This is crap. You talk about the future of the company, the people here care about the present and at the present you are not loosing customers as you have locked your customers from transfering out and then their are people like me where domains that have had their whois data changed or erased are going into redemtion or being lost forever ( destroying our present not your future profit ) You have taken our money and have not provided a service yet you talk about how great it will be for people in a few weeks with new domains but by then you don't care about the current customers who will be bankrupt then while their domains end up being auctioned off to other party's.
kzpdesign - Great story Registered | 2007-02-22 17:08:58
It really doesn't help us. I have two domains that have expired, both are for large clients of mine, of which I am about to loose both accounts because I cannot renew their domains, transfer their domains, or host their domains without modifying the name servers. It's not an extra $80 a month for hosting their site, it's their entire business - email, e-store, website, etc. that is down. Their website is a 1/5th of the business I do with each client. Aadd a couple zeros to that monthly amount and then you can realize what this is costing me and just 2 of my clients.

I have numerous friends in NJ. Would an in-person visit get my domains back for me?
brian Registered | 2007-02-22 17:10:30
How about a timetable on results?????
brian - Lets get going here!!! Registered | 2007-02-22 17:13:30
Put the people that can log into the system on the phones and support tickets..lets see some things happen!!!
JRBHosting - Maybe, maybe not Registered | 2007-02-22 17:16:23
Guess you spoke too soon...I just called tech support. On boy were they unhelpful
mikefast Registered | 2007-02-22 17:16:33
" ....and we see Registerfly.com bouncing back to a level that it was at before ....."
That's kind of scary when you think about it.
zakofrax - Go to NJ Registered | 2007-02-22 17:17:28
Maybe something will happen if as many people as possible go to their Offices/ Home Address and stand over their shoulder watching them fix the accounts. Anybody who can not fit can carry some nice big picket signs letting the world and everyone who works or lives near them how they treat people.
JRBHosting - Consider it done Registered | 2007-02-22 17:20:09
I live 20 minutes away. I'm right there with you
Dkraus - Sorry but this ia a bunch of c Registered | 2007-02-22 17:25:17
This is crap....you must excuse me but I have lost everything. I am a single mom of two. My husband left me with nothing five years ago, instead of giving up which I felt like doing I started my own company and have been sucessful for five years, supported my children FOR Five YEARS ON MY OWN. Registerfly has single handedly destroyed my business. Today I lost my last large client. They all walked due to what they say Is MY fault. I can not renew, transfer or host thier domains. These are million dollar companies that are well known and now the names have expired. I am now being sued by them. Well goodbye house, goodbye car, goodbye life! Thank RegisterFly. You say that the customers are now working for us but as of today the only answer I get is "Our systems are down" then they laugh at me when I break down and cry. I no longer care. SO I hope they continue to enjoy thier mansions and cars and HOOKERS! Because all they did was find a fall guy, it is all crap. People are loosing thier business and thier words mean NOTHING.....more BS more BS more BS.
ebiz1 Registered | 2007-02-22 20:48:58
Good grief, tell your clients to sue Kevin Medina (or RegisterFly in general)! Of course I'm no lawyer, but I can't see the courts blaming you for RFs problems. Explain to your big clients how the domain name system works and that you can help them go after the right people at fault.
ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-02-23 02:34:58
In my case, I also lost customers, and I also lost my business because of lost time (time that I could not afford to loose) and lost clients/income. My clients didn't (and still don't) care about going after RegisterFly. All they care about is resolving their problems. I was the one in direct line of fire when RegisterFly prevented renewals and my clients websites went down. And, as a result, I'm the one who - got fired! In my company, I am the one who took the fall for RegisterFly's actions (or lack of them). It was my TIME that got wasted - time which I wasn't able to use earning money to pay bills and time that was wasted with rude, arrogant and completely uncaring so-called tech support staff - not to mention hours and hours upon more hours waiting time on the telephone having to listen advertising on hold! Another thing; if this lady is being sued then even if the courts don't blame her that isn't going to compensate her for the time dealing with this, nor for the money spent in legal fees. To deal with anything these days that requires the services of an attorney costs thousands of dollars - attorneys are never cheap! It's not as simple as just helping your clients get through it and to direct them to take actions against RegisterFly. Speaking for myself, my (X) clients don't care about RegisterFly - all they care about is that I provide them with the service they expect; If that doesn't happen then they look to me, not to my suppliers. It's MY responsibility to fix things and to give my clients what they need, what they asked for and what they paid for. You can't be the middle man, taking care of things for your client when everything is working and then just pass the buck with something goes wrong. If you resell domain names and manage domains for your clients, you are the fall guy. This lady got stuck in between RegisterFLy's lies and deceit, and her clients - just like me! I totally understand and completely share her frustration, anger, concerns and feelings.
revelationdesign - STOP TALKING & UNLOCK OUR BLOO Registered | 2007-02-22 17:31:42
Nice read, that probably took you a good 2 hours.

STOP TALKING & UNLOCK OUR BLOODY DOMAINS NOW!
jjohnson777 - How this would be handled in g Registered | 2007-02-22 17:31:57
The owners of registerfly lucky they doing this in this centry and not 2-3 centries ago then we all know how to get justice. We would challenge them to a dual. I challenge people to duals all time luckly no ones ever accepted my challenge.
blakilox - Some Compensation Registered | 2007-02-22 17:34:43
Simple Short and important message, can you please pass it on.

Dear John Naruszewicz & Glenn Stansbury.

I have well over 1000 domains with your company, and about 100 impacted domains
I beleive you John and Glen, and I look forward to getting some sites back online
However even when everything stabilizes I am considering leaving.
what will Registerfly offer in compensation and to keep my account?
such as matching or exceeding the current rescue offers such as mydomain.com.

Kind Regards
4USTRALIA.COM
RichF - Are you kidding? Registered | 2007-02-22 17:38:34
Yes John Naruszewicz, I guess I must have been born yesterday. The nanosecond after I have the ability to get away from you and Registerfly, I am gone. And you and your partner deserve the next cell over from Medina. Who do you think you are kidding? You were not party to all the illegal, imoral and unethical acts over the last few years? And if you knew and didn't do anything, aren't you responsible and contributing by default? You have cost a lot of people a lot of money and tons of problems. If you gre up poor, that was a life experience. Now hopefully you might now get to know the experience of living iin prison too.
kimvette - We'll see IP:66.203.79.181 | 2007-02-22 17:46:19
Actions speak louder than words
kreoton Registered | 2007-02-22 17:50:29
True All we want is to know WHEN we would be able to sleep normally!
flytrap Registered | 2007-02-22 17:46:32
Quote:
for those who are still with us we thank you!


Racemagoo4747 - Got One to Transfer Registered | 2007-02-22 17:48:09
I got a .org to transfer to godaddy.
dclarktcco Registered | 2007-02-22 18:12:51
John,

Why is this not posted on YOUR OWN WEBSITE? Why the third party. Because you still do not have control of the company. Kevin still controls half and controls the servers! Quit lying already and respond like a man. Using Medina as your scapegoat is not a good idea, because you worked there when my credit card got charged 4 times for 50 domains and still have yet to be reimbursed. Where were you then? You are so full of bologna. You were there when ICANN initiated their letter campaign. Where were you then Mr. Apology? Start telling the truth giving timelines, telling us who controls the servers with the auth codes, why we cannot talk to someone at tech support that tell's us what is going on and why (In english). If Kevin is out, they are still taking calls and operating like Registerfly in FLA. You have a lot to say above. None of it answered any questions, nor provided truth. You talk about going hungry. You too sir will hopefully experience this again like the ENRON execs that went to jail for their imoral behavior. Do not try to appeal to us as one of the little people. Politics is not what we need. We need our careers back you thief. You too are just as guilty as Mr. Medina, and if what you divulged to this website (court docs) is true, you and Glenn were not watching the books so well, or you too were also enjoying the money we were sending you. How can the financial officer not until recently notice Kevin was doing wrong? Probably because no one there at Registerfly knows how to do their job. or they were just as guilty and you had to formulate a plan to get him out, not estimating his tech savy was better than whomever you got. If Medina fired everyone, why not hire them back? For you to not know what Medina was doing is an outright lie. Nice try sir.

You sir have single handedly made all of us dumber for having read your letter above.
JeffK Registered | 2007-02-22 18:30:46
Ditto to the frustrated comments written above. Registerfly's problems stared long before the current debacle. I find it very hard to believe they can recover credibility with their customers. Certainly I would not return to them however they go.

Jeff
kimvette - We'll see Registered | 2007-02-22 18:37:44
Action speak louder than words.

(OK, I've said it enough)
dzzt - Customer Support Registered | 2007-02-22 18:42:47
Good news: I reached someone after 5 tries and only 10 minutes on hold at the 305-674-0165 number.
Bad news: she knew nothing and suggested that I call back tomorrow if things aren't better.
For me, hosted email is down and has been for days. Shame on me for trusting RegisterFly to provide a reasonably reliable service.
I've already secured a new hosting vendor. Now, I'm just waiting for RegisterFly to allow me to make DNS changes.... (and waiting. and waiting....)
kungfucoach - still no changes, no answers Registered | 2007-02-22 18:47:47
At the end of the day still no answers, no responses to months of support tickets, emails to Glenn Stansbury, to ICANN, online support forms, etc. ... domains still expire.
lsylvain - OK. So, anyone want to consul Registered | 2007-02-22 18:51:22
Until this new "dream team" is in place, some experienced consultants could come in there and help get this mess stabilized.

There are tons on qualified folks right under the nose of RegisterFly. They are the many experienced developers who have domains registered there.

So how about an offer to contract some of us? You may be surprised how quickly your situation can be stabilized, Mr. Naruszewicz.
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-22 19:00:48
@lsylvain

I agree 100%. I feel like I'm talking to children when speaking to registerfly.

Before my current position as a developer I was in the support field for 5 years. If I was ever in a situation like this I'd work my ass off to actually help people. RFly give me access to your systems and I'll VOLUNTEER to help these people.

This is truly sad.
wcw - 1 and done Registered | 2007-02-22 19:02:19
Quote:
We will be using the "one and done" philosophy


One ... unlock the domains

Two ... I'm 'done'

If that fails, maybe I'll kidnap the chihuahua and hold him hostage
dhdesign3 - I only have one request from R Registered | 2007-02-22 19:06:21
Please unlock our domains so we can transfer them out of there, if that is what we choose to do!

Give us the choice whether we want to stay or go!

For me, I'm leaving as soon as I can.
lsylvain - How about a commitment that we Registered | 2007-02-22 19:05:45
Like many, I attempted to renew a domain well ahead of the renewal date only to watch helplessly as it expired. Will you make a commitment that we will not lose our domain names, Mr. Naruszewicz?

While I am on the "actions-not-words" kick, are there any other *tangible* ways you intend to show that you are serious and not, as some have suggested, simply going through the motions to avoid jail time yourself?

I for one would be happy if you could simply take my account out of restricted mode for starters so I can log in. Restricted mode is normally reserved for deadbeats, but in my case I was told that my account was restricted to punish me for following up too many times on support requests that were never responded to after my charge card was charged three times for a renewal that never happened and I lost my domain.

Here are some ideas:
-- A guaranteed ability to renew domains for 30 days after you have things totally stabilized (as determined by the admin here at Registerflies.com).

-- A promise to refund all over-charges that can be proven without any hassle.

-- Extra time appended to domain expiration dates equal to from when problems *really* got bad back in December until now (that would be like three or more months).

-- An offer to those who have left Registerfly to transfer back for free instead of the $5.95 offer that, in effect, penalized everyone with Enom domains.

You get the idea.

I don't mean to beat you up, sir, but it would be wise to come up with some tangible ways to demonstrate your seriousness.
ebiz1 - consider this possibility... Registered | 2007-02-22 19:11:50
If Kevin Medina really "wrote the entire Registerfly.com website and had full and total control of its data" then it's entirely possible that no one there knows how to fix it yet. If John N and Glenn are typical executive types, they will know *nothing* about programming. Hiring programmers isn't an instant fix. I'm a web programmer and I know firsthand that trying to work through unfamiliar code, especially complex code like RF would have, can take a long time (days) to figure out how it works, where Kevin has messed with the code and data, and how to make changes without seriously screwing something else up (that happens all the time with software). I'm not making excuses for them, I'm just bringing up the possibility that this is more difficult than it appears on the surface.
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-22 19:28:34
Yep but theres 500 programmers reading this, you and I included. I'm sure they could reach out if they were desperate.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-22 20:16:38
Adding 500 programmers to a project does not make the project take 1/500th of the time.
jacel - RE: consider this possibility Registered | 2007-02-22 21:47:46
I don't think revelationdesign ment that they should add 500 programers, as any goog programmer knows that wouuld only slow down the project, but if they were realy desperate, they could ask for some help from the pool of programers here that have been hurt. No, I don't know if I'll stay on board (I will defentley transfer off my critical accounts), but I would be willing to help, and yes I would make it work. Although they probably will not ask us, as they would be worried about someone putting in bad code, but a realy good programer woud have better ethics than that.
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-22 22:14:44
@jacel

Yes, that is exactly what I meant. 500 programmers would be a disaster!

Knowing them, that's probably what they've done!
lsylvain - Absolutely Registered | 2007-02-22 22:28:14
I was referring to an a team of the cream of the crop from among the developers who registered with RegisterFly as a pool to draw from.

For example, I am a senior software engineer with over 20 years experience and make my living building J2EE enterprise sites for very high traffic applications. I have plenty of experience with integration and troubleshooting issues that require the ability to get a quick lay of the land. I happen to be finishg up three releases simultaneously and am not available at the moment. Plus, RegisterFly is not a J2EE site. But I bet some crack PHP folks are out here...

RegiserFly is a PHP site. Can't tell if it is MySQL or Sybase or whatever but, judging by its appearance and behavior, it probably wasn't done *that* horribly from a technical standpoint. The issue at RegisterFly has been mismanagement. I am sure that small team of gurus could get them operational again.

I am not talking about charity by any means. The board of RegisterFly should be willing to pay good money to whomever comes in to bail them out. They have 15 days, and the clock is ticking.

Given the current situation, which is a total vacuum with no one (at least on-shore) doing anything on the technical end, what I originally suggested - hiring some crack developers form this community - is probably the most vialble alternative.
Festus - They Still Have Their Head In Registered | 2007-02-22 20:13:11
"The horrific level of support that was offered from January onward is proof of this."

OMG, they still have their head in the sand and not admitting that they always had terrible customer support and trying to make out it is just an acute problem.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 12:18:18
No kidding; support and customer service was fine until about a year ago, at which point it VERY rapidly went downhill and other problems started happening:

- Double, triple and quadruple billing
- Renewals being bille d but not committed
- WHOIS info being reverted to RegisterFly
ChinaJoe - History repeats itself Registered | 2007-02-22 20:28:35
ebay uses seller ratings to give reassurance to its buyers. Its historica data...

What about the historical "seller rating of RF'? Well, of course many people who write posts on boards such as these are somewhat biased. And their views may be subjective.

However, the "official" ICANN audited track history of RF promising to make things better is documented in the ICANN "breach of Accreditation Agreement" letter posted on this site http://registerflies.com/docman/doc_download-21.html

They promised better service. And promised better service again. But no action.

One case listed in the ICANN document , where a guy had 220 domains hijacked and the registrant information of each and every one of these domains was changed to "Kevin Medina" was running from May 19th 2006.

According to the letter, ICANN (not you or I... this is ICANN) asked for information the same month on May 26th and an audit and only on October 4th did RF send information that "ICANN determined that the records demonstrated irregularities".

What chance have you or I to have our domains renewed, our domains unlocked and our money refunded.

And what about our peace of mind?

Give us our domains back now. Release us all from the RF jail.
dclarktcco - OMG AUTH CODES ARE COMING BACK Registered | 2007-02-22 21:19:06
Doing a transfer now...will check back if it works!
alkeeney - Why nothing on Registerfly? Registered | 2007-02-22 21:24:31
Message to John and Glenn, if indeed you are paying attention to us here:

First of all, may I ask why you have nothing on your website regarding these issues? Why have you not yet sent out a similar email to your customers via your own system? What about all the clients who have no idea what is going on and haven't found this website?

I stumbled on registerflies last weekend after 10 days of extreme stress trying to figure out why my websites were down. This after spending HOURS on hold trying to speak to someone for help, and after sending numerous support tickets (which have never been answered).

During the two times I actually spoke to someone in technical support directly, it was patently obvious that they were resident in India or the Asian continent and definitely not in New Jersey. When I asked for their physical location, I was told "New Jersey". Please don't add insult to offensive injury. I am not that stupid. There is absolutely nothing wrong in outsourcing to India, and many companies do it. However, don't make Ramesh tell me his name is Vinny.

Also, you might consider having a secretary do a grammar and spell check before sending out any additional correspondence. To me the quality of the above email completely emphasizes your lack of respect to those of your clients who have found this website.

P.S. When will I be able to expect a refund of overcharges and when will I be able to get EPP codes so that I may transfer out of my nightmare.
JRBHosting - Heh Registered | 2007-02-22 22:00:42
I spoke to "Rick James" and "John Matthew"...they both had very strong accents and couldn't even pronounce the town they are in: Boonton.
tann - Re: consider this possibility. Registered | 2007-02-22 21:44:39
ebiz1, I agree completely with you. It is bloody difficult to manage an unfamiliar code thing and "how to make changes without seriously screwing something else up".

I am in the same situation with my database while our developer is out and I had to hire a new one. Examination of how the whole thing works took about two months and still there are many "dark spots" left.

So I do not blame those guys, I believe they do try to sort things. And RF system no doubt is very complicated. Don't forget that they simply could claim that they are not able to manage the situation and just run away. RF site would just go down and what you would do? It is sad of course that we can't manage our domains at the moment, especially those expired.

Have you tried to bring domains under enom control? As I understood from their answer you can do that through their support writing from your enom account. To do this they will charge you for 1 year and will add this year to expiration date.

Cheers
Benk - Why are you Deleting My Posts? Registered | 2007-02-22 21:51:16
Why are you Deleting My Posts?

Why is there no call to action to any external body in this site?

No government body, no consumer affairs, no business bureau, no petition, no logging of complaints except for a select few?

Is the mydomain coupon an attempt to 2 make money out of the misfortune of others?

Is the support ticket designed to make us "patient' while customers continue to be billed?

Why is admin anonymous? - Well I can understand that
Festus Registered | 2007-02-22 22:56:28
He is not exactly anonymous, I know his name and I'm just a regular joe member here like everyone else. I just have been involved with this problem long enough to know who he is.

But don't ask me for his name because you wont get it. ;)
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 12:24:44
Admin has contacted users he trusts through other means. I genuinely believe he is trying to help by coercing RegisterFly to do the right thing, as evidenced by the mere existence of this site.

The mission of this site all along has been to warn users of the problems with RegisterFly, to encourage RegisterFly to address long-outstanding customer service issues and poor business practices, and to get users to think twice before choosing Registerfly.

As such, even though admin here is spreading truth, he has opened himself up to various liabilities. In THEORY one cannot be sued for libel unless they are spreading false information, the reality is that in America today, the burden of proof in a civil suit is on the shoulders of the accused.

On top of that, the very people admin is trying to help (we users; his guests) are the ones who are insulting him.

Is there any wonder that admin is seeking to remain largely anonymous?

Some good will likely come out of this site; RegisterFly is going to either fold or fix all the problems and conduct business with integrity. Other registrars are taking note and any others which are conducting business unethically (Godaddy comes to mind; see the seclists.org issue) will likely address their business practices and support issues before the spotlight is drawn to them.
Samson - Follow the money Registered | 2007-02-22 21:50:41
Did anyone here seriously expect that letter under any other circumstances than ICANN's decision to drop the hammer? Come on. These are worldwide mega corporations we're talking about here. None of them give a damn about their customers. They only care about one group of people: The shareholders.

Well guess what. There's only 2 of them. One just got forced to sell by the other. And the 3rd guy sitting around watching all this is learning how he can seize the company later.

ICANN only stepped up when their own $130K was not paid to them after the standard 120 day wait before declaring the party in default. And now suddenly ICANN is keen to act. They've been ignoring us for 18 months now. I suspect a registrar stiffing ICANN is like you or I trying to stiff the IRS on April 15.

Money talks. Big money roars.
outahere - This smells even worse now Registered | 2007-02-22 23:20:48
This statement has the stink of a sociopath. As others have noted, steps can be taken to show that registerfly is serious about making amends but all we get are words. Registerfly has 3 of my domains (I got the rest out through eNom) and some of my paypal funds and they have no intention of giving them back unless someone forces them. Anyone who falls for a statement like this is lacking in the people judgement department or just engaging in wishful thinking. I can only hope justice is done one day, and we see some perp walks on TV.

[edit: fixed some grammar]
freddieb - Faith in RF Registered | 2007-02-22 21:55:26
I hope my faith in RF is not misguided, but reading between the pomposity in their statement I sense the intention to do the right thing by us.

I've been with RF for nearly 8 years and have not had an issue with them until the pas 12 months.

I really think the guys are tring, but can you imagine the size of the job?
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 12:27:54
Quote:
I've been with RF for nearly 8 years and have not had an issue with them until the pas 12 months.


Six years for me. If they get their act together, survive this mess, and conduct business ethically again, I will use RegisterFly again in the future.

In the meantime I am seeking to pull the rest of our domains out of their hands because we need to be 100% certain that our clients' domains are under our control.

This has been a very long week for me, all thanks to Mr. Medina's misconduct, and I know a lot of visitors to this site hold many more domains than my company does and stand to lose a lot more.
tann - Re: Faith in RF Registered | 2007-02-22 22:34:33
Good saying freddieb. I think the best thing we can do is not to fall into panic.

When people start business, their intention is to provide a decent service, no doubt. The problem is that one day things can go wrong. This could happen with any company, understand that there is no guarantee about enom, godaddy or whatever.

I believe we won't lose our domains as the question is not about one customer, there are thousands of us and together we can push them all. The RF code system is complicated but what they could do immediately, ICANN and RF together, is to prolong expiration dates in databases. It won't harm anything but will give some time to manage the whole system instead of spending time to read numerous customers complains. Do you realise that even short simple answer to mulitplay requests take lot of time? You probably never worked in support

Let's push ICANN to prolong expiration dates, they are the most important at the moment.
ebiz1 Registered | 2007-02-22 22:58:26
I couldn't agree more, tann. ICANN should *IMMEDIATELY* step in and disallow RegisterFly registered domains from expiring until they deem the situation is under control. But based on their prior attitude and action with domains that have already expired ... it's not likely. But we still should push them like crazy to take some kind of action like that.
Darren Registered | 2007-02-22 23:17:46
Looks like bullshit..... smells like bullshit..... is bullshit.

Talk talk talk. Dont wana hear it. Instead of spending two hours drafting your letter, spend two hours attending to our renewals, transfers and DNS changes then we might believe ya.
jjohnson777 - Can now change DNS info Registered | 2007-02-22 23:20:33
Happy to say I was finally able to change the DNs info for my sites could even unlook domains and just tried to transfer one domain again as a test.
ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-02-22 23:42:37
I would like to know what the deal is, now, with the class action law suit? Also, back in August, 2006, when I first signed up with this site, I contacted the attorney for the class action suit and he told me that I cannot be a part of the “Class” “because I live in Hawaii and not within the contiguous United States”. I don’t understand – what, Hawaii isn’t a part of the United States – this is nuts. I guess I need to seek out a local attorney here in Hawaii so another class action suit can be pursued on the behalf of all of those who are in places like Hawaii, Alaska, Porta Rico, Etc. How come the operator of this site doesn’t want to include the rest of us out here too. I do appreciate the fact that this site is here, and the time and efforts put out by the operator of this site, but I really fell left out here. Just because I don’t live on the mainland doesn’t make this situation any better for us out here who are also a part of this entire mess and who are “American Citizens”, just like the rest of you guys! And what about people who are in other countries who got screwed by RegisterFly? We here in the states aren’t the only ones you know….

As for this latest statement from RegisterFly.. I would like to know how you guys are going to fix all the problems you’ve caused your customers, like me, who have suffered actual and tangible damages as a result of doing business with and placing our trust in your company? I am one of those who’s business is gone now, thanks to RegisterFly’s lies, failures to provide services which were paid for, Etc., Etc., Etc. I lost several clients because of the numerous problems with RegisterFly, and when I lost my one and only really BIG client, my business finally folded. My partner and I simply couldn’t continue on and we made the decision to just give it up and do other things. Hopefully I’ll get things back together but right now I’m setting here only one month out from being homeless. I invested a lot of time and money into my business, all to have RegisterFly tare it all down for me. I spent hundreds of hours waiting on hold for tech support that kept disconnecting and hanging up on me. It was just a wonderful experience - all those hours on hold, wasting cell minutes and getting to listen to the same old advertisements that talked about how great RegisterFly was and how easy it was to use – NOT! I wasted hours and hours trying to deal with egotistic and rude customer support staff who didn’t give a you know what about me, my business, me being RegisterFly’s customer, or anything else for that matter. They couldn’t even speak decent English and I swear that half of the time they didn’t even know what I was talking about. They constantly argued with me and constantly failed to address my issues and make things work as they should have. My issues seldom ever got resolved and usually ended up with support tickets being closed without resolution. I noticed that a lot of my previous support tickets simply disappeared from the system, so they are no longer accessible. RegisterFly took money from me – money which was never owed to them in the first place – they committed credit card fraud several times with me, not to mention all of their other customers out there. Right this very moment, Fly has money “locked up” inside my account, and I can’t use it for anything. When I try to use it, whatever I do (renewal, new domain registration, whatever) all that happens is a failure. The funny thing is that my account balance kept changing. One day it would be one amount and then the next day it would be something else, even without me doing anything or even logging into my account. When I’ve tried to renew a domain name (done this one several times now), the renewal fails and the money is removed from my account balance and totally disappears. It doesn’t show up in any report. Yet, no renewal. Sometimes my account balance would take a jump upwards, with no explained or apparent reason. The entire accounting system went screwy and right now even I have lost track and don’t really know exactly how much “should” be there. The TIME involved in dealing with this stuff dealt a FATEL blow to my business. How are you guys going to compensate me for this? How are you guys going to compensate any of your customers for these kinds of things. Doesn’t our TIME account for anything? If I were able to bill my customers for all the time I spent messing around with RegisterFly, it would amount to thousands and thousands of dollars. Who cares if the domain name is $7.99, or even $00.99 each, if it takes me 30 hours to get it to work, each time I try to renew it, Etc.? Big companies with deep pockets and lots of resources can weather things like this but a little guy who owns a small business and who is just trying to make a living and pay the rent and other bills can’t afford such huge investments in time, especially when it’s not time used to generate income, What are you guys at RegisterFly going to do to compensate for this? I think the answer is clear – Absolutely NOTHING!

Your goal right now is to fix everything back up and provide a great service. You just want to get back to business as usual and go on and pretend nothing happened to your customers. Kevin did this so no one else is supposed to be liable? I don’t see ANY offer to compensate your customers for their lost time, lost money, lost businesses! You aren’t thinking about everyone you’ve hurt out here and those of us whose business’s you’ve ruined! “We’re sorry” doesn’t cut it – not at this point it doesn’t. We’re sorry won’t pay my rent and it won’t keep me from having to live in a park someplace if I can’t pay my bills. We’re sorry won’t bring my business back and it won’t bring my customers back. My customers don’t care if this was a problem that was caused by a rogue CEO named Kevin at RegisterFly.com – they only thing my customers care about is that “I” provide them with the service that they need, and that my services are reliable and that I deliver what I tell them I’m going to deliver. Thinks to RegisterFly, the client trust relationships that I worked so hard to create were all torn down over domain issues. Personally, I’d like something a little more then just a “we’re sorry” and you’ll have a great place to keep your domains in the future. I don’t care about “dream teams” and stuff – how can I, I don’t even have a business anymore! And I’m not the only one out here in this or a similar situation!
freddieb - DNS change Registered | 2007-02-22 23:45:41
I've just managed to change DNS for a domain, so perhaps there's hope yet!

My account balance of &75.63 is still showing.

Looks like something is happening at RF
ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-02-22 23:53:38
P.S. Please accept my appologies for the glitches in the above post. I used quotation marks in several places, while writing the post in Outlook. Unfortunately, it appears that some charracters weren't properly reproduced when I pasted the text to this site.
traveltext - YES DNS change is working Registered | 2007-02-23 00:10:33
Good news:
You can now change your DNS settings, so go for it.

Bad news:
RF has lost one of my domain names.

Oh well, some progress is being made.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 12:30:33
Log into your account RIGHT NOW and protect your domains!

Log in and take screenshots of the domains your company holds in your account.

If your clients have their own accounts but you manage the accounts for them, log into those accounts and take screenshots as well.

Also run a whois.

If you do not know how to take screenshots see the brief tutorial I wrote up at http://kim.biyn.com/RegisterFly_Woes
Darren Registered | 2007-02-23 00:41:04
If I do a DNS change on any domain that shows registerfly as the registrar I get and instant DNS change to the DNS i stipulated.

If I try to do a DNS change on a doman that shows eNom as the registrar I get ERROR BAD PASSWORD/USERNAME.

THis to me would indicate that eNom have locked registerfly out of any ability to make changes to domains in eNom's control.
nightflight - action speaks louder than word Registered | 2007-02-23 00:53:58
registerfly is still preventing domain owners from transfers and this is against the law.

ICANN is further allowing them to conduct business as usual, so they are also breaking the law.

Everyone should hold ICANN responsible and claim damages straight to them.

ICANN has failed at every possible level and was only making big money through registerfly.
bobesh Registered | 2007-02-23 01:08:48
give me a break Mr. Naruszewicz.

stop lying and tell us exactly how to regain control of our domain names !!!
you stole them, and tell that little twit sitting next to you, Mr. Stansbury, that he is still going to hear from my lawyer. I have screenshots and everything. the domain names Mr Stansbury stole from me were properly registered to myself as a contact, now he erased it and made himself a contact. those are all domain names that took me years to fight cybersquatting and to win various UDRP cases against cybersquators who were infringing my Trademark. all this hard work is now gone and I no longer have a control of these domain names.

When I login to my RegisterFly account, it still shows all of mine 38 domain names, however I'm completely unable to use any of the control panel (management) tools, it always gives me an error.

When I try to change contact details for my domain names, I get
"Error: Bad User name or Password"

When I try to change the nameservers, I get :
"Error: The errors returned was [Bad User name or Password]"

I have already lost some domain names and I'm still losing more and more, one by one. For example next week 5 of my domains are to expire. There is nothing I can do, when I pay for renewal they just take the money but never renew the domain, just keep on sending me notices to pay again for renewal.

I cannot transfer to another Registrar because these thieves have
change my contact information to their own !!!
They have also removed my name servers and replaced them with
DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM,...

I cannot change that. Funny also that I have always made sure my
domains are not locked, but under WHOIS they all show as "locked"
(while under the RegFly control panel they still show unlocked).

They can say whatever they want and blame Kevin Medina
(yes he is a gangster), but the fact is they all are thieves.
Mr. John Naruszewicz comes here and plays innocent, and they
portrait Mr.Glenn Stansbury as a nice guy, then why the hell is Mr. "nice guy" Glenn Stansbury trying to steal all of my domain names !!?

(don't try to tell me that idiot Medina is as stupid as changing all of my domain name contact information to Glenn Stansbury) !

as I said, they are all thieves, nothing is going to change here.

this is how all of my domain names show up when doing WHOIS search :

Registrant Contact:
Registerfly.com
Responsible Party glenn@registerfly.com)
+1.9734048430
Fax: +1.9737361355
404 Main Street
Suite 401 (Fourth Floor)
Boonton, NJ 07005
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM


(Technical & Admin info are also Glenn Stansbury).
How do these criminals get away with it !!?

When I send emails to ICANN or eNom asking for help, they all ignore me too, they all are bastards.

Cheers
Pete
nightflight - call the Police Registered | 2007-02-23 01:52:02
Pete,

report regfly as thieves to the Police and the FBI including ICANN as their Godfather.

ICANN is making money from their regfly what makes them responsible as long as they permit regfly.

This is normal theft!.
rajput - please start movement Registered | 2007-02-23 02:16:29
I must advice all of you to send e-mail to ICANN accredit@icann.org & force them to plan an immediate solution for all of the hostages @ RFly without waisting the time anymore. ICANN is the only source for us which can do something otherwise we will be no more with our domains at RFly.
If anybody have the e-mail address of higher authorities of ICANN please update here immediately.
ADMIN please, update all of us with the e-mails of ICANN authorities. We all are unable to sleep at nights due to RFly so why the so called authority ICANN should sleep? ICANN is really not playing its role in this worst situation & they should be ashamed of all.
ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-02-23 02:56:00
I thought that one of the main reasons for having an organization such as ICANN was to protect the safety of Internet Domain Names and to protect people from loosing them, from fraud and from all the exact same things that RegisterFly has been doing to their customers. I was appalled with ICANN first gave accreditation to RegisterFly. If ICANN would of given Fly’s accreditation process even the list bit of initial investigation they would have found that Fly already a LOT of dissatisfied customers and that they had major issues that needed to be cleared up. But no – either ICANN did an initial investigation to find out about the company and its background and simply overlooked all the problems and give them accreditation anyway, or ICANN conducted no investigation at all and their only consideration was in getting their accreditation fees. ICANN, in accrediting RegisterFly, did so without consideration for all the customers that were already getting ripped off. ICANN knew, or should have known about RegisterFly and what was happening, right from the very start of their association with RegisterFly. I’m with several others on here who believe that ICANN is also at fault and should be held responsible at this point in time. Perhaps, if ICANN is going to just fluff this off and not play a roll in setting things right with everyone out here who has suffered damages – perhaps ICANN itself should be dissolved??? What good is an organization like ICANN if they are going to stand by and let things like this go unchecked, or allow this situation to pass with just a minor little slap on the back of the hand? Maybe there are some ICANN personal who should also be going to jail ????
maxjac - At least they are trying Registered | 2007-02-23 04:51:56
I have lost 2 domain names and had downtime for more than one week because I could not change my nameservers.

However, I was happy to see that I was abble to change my nameservers on all of my domains but one this morning so they must be doing (or trying to do) something right.

I'm looking forward for all of this to be resolved and even though the letter stated here doesn't make our domain work, it at least gives us a clear update of what is going on.
RoyalValetParking - What a mess Registered | 2007-02-23 05:12:54
What a mess this is. As a Domain Parking Site owner I feel it for everyone. 485 Domains and 3 name servers I can do nothing with. Not to mention at least half my 133 members have their domains registered at Registerfly. All I can say is What a mess. I normally read and dont post but thought I'd let my members reading this know I am feeling it too.

Edited: Ok trying the suport form here. Lets see if that works for me.
Savo - No more!!! Registered | 2007-02-23 05:09:55
Nice words but no actions!
Before a year I temporary lost control on 300 domains and more!
A few I could move to Enom and after months of stressful work I managed to move the others into Godaddy. I have 3 different account with them and am a small reseller.
Now I have 9 domains still left with this nice talking no good CEO.

I have NO FAITH whatsoever in Registerfly and my best day would be the day ICANN takes over and all would go to jail!

I lost for over a year customers after customers as he is talking about having no money for food, heating and so on is for me unbelievable!
I KNOW that there are many here that are now out of business because they were put they’re trust in RF with there sweet talk!
For the past week received 2 emails from RF, Mark and Michael, they promised to change the name server on the given domains at RF.
Now they told they have no control to change the name server!
So what is this sweet letter about?
To hear who will go to jail? I don’t give a shit about that just want 9 domains to e changed to my new nameserver nothing more and nothing less.
And yes if possible will pray that the name Registerfly will be wiped from all future and I don’t need to hear or see this name again!

So sweet mister John Naruszewicz please don’t even publish here again and just spend time to regain control over my domains and those from all others here.
That’s where you have to focus on as I am not interested in your problem of your house and electric bill and the office in Florida or even your dying palm tree!
fjensen - Who is John Naruszewicz Registered | 2007-02-23 05:30:23
Is John Naruszewicz the same person as Kevin Medina????
I expect evrything from this company - they are playing with everybody incl. ICANN. They still keep promising this and that and nothing happens. This is the BIGGEST SCAM ever online much bigger then Nigerian Scams and ICANN is to blaim. They have done absolutely nothing. I wonder if some of the people at ICANN is getting money under the table???

http://dannames.com
horacio - Some Comments Registered | 2007-02-23 06:37:07
Finally, I can view some auth codes from my domains (only what are registred through RF. ENOM not.

When you view: BAD USERNAME / PASSWORD is because is trying to connect to the webService (API) in ENOM.

Suggestions to who view this: TALK WITH ENOM.
gj1 Registered | 2007-02-23 20:40:11
I've only just found out about all this mess - I've changed my host company here in Ireland, and wanted to update the name servers in RF. Because I'm in Ireland I've spent a fortune on phonecalls however it now seems this is the least of my worries! RF (answered after about 10mins) got the same error message I did, then told me to ring Enom. Enom (after 30 mins on hold, ouch!) said I had to unlock the whois protection I had with RF, which I did (was that an OK thing to do?), and then email Enom's customer service which I did, about 5 hours ago.

So can I expect a reply?

The Verisign Whois gives Enom as registrar. There's no mention of a registrant - but the RF Whois says RF is the registrant. Does this mean I'm screwed or can Enom still help?

Yes I get the BAD USERNAME/PASSWORD error.

If I could log in at Enom I would transfer, but I can't do that until they set me up. But is it possible with RF as registrant?

Thanks!

Debbie
MikeInMass - ENOM can get those domains out Registered | 2007-02-23 07:36:24
Read this site and you can find out how to get your enom domains out of RF without doing anything in your RF account. It worked for me, now I have to wait and see how to get my RF domains out, that's the big problem here.
sojo - JUST GIVE US OUR DOMAINS!!!!! Registered | 2007-02-23 08:32:07
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR SOB STORY - WE JUST WANT OUR DOMAINS THAT WE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR IN FULL!!!!!!!!


GIVE US OUR DOMAINS BACK TODAY!!!!!


YOU ALL BELONG IN JAIL WITH YOUR BOY GLENN!
Samson - Act! Registered | 2007-02-23 08:46:47
Number one rule of the internet: Trust no one. At the first indication of a problem, all of you with all those domains should have jumped up and run for the nearest exist instead of pinning your hopes on a gripe site with an anonymous admin who has the uncanny ability to talk to the head honchos of the site that caused the entire problem to begin with.

None of my domains were especially valuable. Except one, and that was the first one I jumped on breaking out of jail. All of the others could have been salvaged and replaced with something else and life would have gone on. But I didn't hesitate and wait for "good news". I acted. I got them out. I filed my fraud complaints. I sent my letter to ICANN. I emailed the FTC, and the Commerce Department.

As a result, I saved ~30 domains and only lost two of them when the battle was over. Those two have been switfly replaced.

Kevin's actions did not take place in a vacuum. The company consisted of more than just him. The other officers have had 18 months to stand up and stop him. They chose not to. Until ICANN dropped the hammer on them. We only found out about it later, but that 120 day past due notice has been hovering over their heads forever and they needed someone to take the fall.

I don't buy this crap about how Kevin was the only one who had access to everything. You can't manage 2 million domains and all the problems associated with it if only one person can access the system. Someone else had to know. But if by some bizarre circumstance Kevin is the only one who knows the code then the Fly can't assure anyone that Kevin doesn't have a massive pile of backdoor access methods that will allow him full control from anywhere in the world. The crew, what little there seems to be of one, has only one option. They need to scrap everything and write an entirely new interface to the domain records. That's the only way they can know for sure Kevin is locked out.

I feel sorry for anyone who has waited to take action. You probably missed the boat. ICANN is going to deliver the fatal blow in 2 weeks time. There won't be a registerfly.com left to save after that. ICANN wants their money.
MikeInMass - Samson, you're my HERO Registered | 2007-02-23 09:00:43
Thanks for your put-down of the rest of us. Too bad we all weren't as smart as you and did what you did!

By the way, at the first inidcation of a problem to me it was too late, everything was falling apart.

Thanks again!
jacel - Words - Words -Words (NO ACTIO Registered | 2007-02-23 09:18:45
After sleeping on this all night (what little sleep I did get) I have came to two realizations.

1st - Glenn, John and the rest of RF don't care about their customers. They only care about the money they are making. If this was not the case, then the process of giving them money when their cert is still invalid would be closed down. Also, they would not have issued the statement that they did. It would have stated what they were going to do, to win the loyalty of their customers back, like extending expirations, getting back lost domains with no cost to our customers, and returning all funds that were fraudulent charged. Also, when is John or Glenn actually going to address any of the issues that we have been bringing up on this site? NEVER, they just keep hiding behind admin; they are cowards, while it is admin that keeps taking the beatings.

2nd - ICANN is worthless. If any one really believes that they are going to pull the accreditation from RF, then you’re living a dream. They have had over a year to do something, and yet ignored the issues. All they want is their money, and if they pull the accreditation, what motivation would RF have to pay them - NONE. What needs to happen through all of this is for ICANN to be thrown in Jail with the rest of the RF folks (including John and Glenn - they have know about the issues for more than a year, and have done nothing)

Statement for John and Glenn: Please stop taking new customers; let us transfer our domains off of your register. If you’re really sincere about rebuilding RF then show us some action
EXTEND our domains
DON'T let any more domains get lost due to your neglect
RESTORE the lost domains with no cost to us
RETURN all of our money

Then and only then will we start to even consider believing any thing that you say.

Prediction – John and Glenn will never address any of our issues directly (hopefully they will prove me wrong).
Samson - Agreed Registered | 2007-02-23 10:23:28
The Fly hasn't paid yet, what makes anyone think they'll pay now? That stupid ICANN logo isn't worth the pixels its made of. You'll find better service and accountability at a registrar that ISN'T tied to them in some way.

That's ironic too. Because if by some long shot miracle John and Glenn pull their asses out of the fire and save the company, losing the accredidation would be the best thing to happen to them.
zattafact - I will remain a customer Registered | 2007-02-23 09:42:39
I have done business with companies - and have been part-owner of companies, where there have been "Partner" issues. And frankly, I know it takes time and a very rough road to travel to get things corrected.

And I am pretty sure that if it were in John's power he would have had these issues solved long ago. But he has laws and rules to follow to ensure long-term success.

Knowing what I know - I would even invest in Registerfly - because this is probably the best thing that could happen to the company - even considering the public-relations black eye they received.

I am proud to remain a customer if John is running the show. And I am one of those who lost - I lost 3 active web sites because of this.
umonster Registered | 2007-02-23 09:46:20
Yeah, Samson, thanks for that. Very helpful. Glad you feel sorry for us.
outahere - Samson Registered | 2007-02-23 09:57:41
Samson, yes, thank you for making all the victims feel stupid and like they deserved it. You are the man! Your future is bright. You can work as a lawyer shaking down rape victims and telling them they deserved what they got. If you fail the bar exam, you can probably get a job at registerfly (after they change their name, of course). You can be in charge of stealing people's domains and then blaming them for being stupid afterwards. Yes, no doubt you will go far in life.
Samson - Typical Registered | 2007-02-23 10:16:52
Yeah, sure. Lawyer. Shaking down rape victims. Working for internet parasites. Are you people listening to yourselves? Do you hear what you're saying?

Sitting around here complaining about your situation is obviously not helping to resolve it. Expecting the two thugs in charge of the Fly now to help you is ignorant. They're in damage control mode. They know their jig is up.

I'm sorry my bluntness bothers you. But sometimes you have to be blunt to get things done. My advice is simple. Stop acting like the victims you are, and stand up for yourselves. Take some responsibility for your solution instead of waiting to have it handed to you by some shadowy entity nobody knows a damn thing about.
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-23 11:09:54
And what exactly do you think people can DO?

ICANN doesn't listen or respond to us. RFly is a mess. They said they'll remove RFly's accreditation but what about domains expiring now? They have NOT stated they will help US or save the domains.

Stand up for ourselves HOW?
kimvette Editor | 2007-02-24 19:24:21
They have stated that they are not responsible for helping us recover what Kevin Media has, for all intents and purposes, stolen from us.
kimvette Editor | 2007-02-24 19:23:22
Stop acting like the victims you are, and stand up for yourselves. Take some responsibility for your solution instead of waiting to have it handed to you by some shadowy entity nobody knows a damn thing about.

OK, for those of us who have our domains being held hostage by Mr. Medina, or his removing them from our accounts and selling them in back-room deals, or letting them go into pendingDelete status despite their having been paid for, what CAN we do to help ourselves? The database is in Mr. Medina's hands; he has full control over the situation and he can make ALL of this right for his customers if he chooses to.

Sadly he is choosing to let the system keep accepting financial transactions, while not delivering what he is paid to deliver.

Meanwhile, those of us who are actively trying to get domains OUT of his hands are utterly powerless to do so.
mjskier - Read between the lines Registered | 2007-02-23 10:22:54
Frankly I don't know what this letter is trying to accomplish. It states clearly that Kevin Medina wrote the code for registerfly and with him gone nobody else knows how the site works. Not a very solid fondation upon which to build a business if you ask me...
Even if you believe the sob story, it just shows that the board doesn't have a clue on how to run a business. They didn't have any contingency plan in the event their technical guy was not available any more.
Whoever stays with this company after they get their domain back is asking to get screwed again...
outahere - re: Typical Registered | 2007-02-23 10:30:46
Samson: Read your OP. You blamed the victims for being defrauded. You are morally-challenged.
Samson - re: Typical Registered | 2007-02-23 11:07:47
You should go back and read my OP again. I never said the victims were at fault for being defrauded.

I said the victims were at fault for their inaction afterward. Expecting some nameless savior to come rescue them.

You chose to turn this into something else by comparing me to a sleazebag defense lawyer trying to make rape victims into targets. And then saying when I fail the bar that I'll be working for domain stealing scumbags.

It's not "morally challenged" to expect people to stand up and fight for their own rights. If you think that, then it's you who's actually challenged.
SkipCard - Oh, the irony Registered | 2007-02-23 10:55:44
Sad to say, but the RF statement gave me the same reaction as all our complaints gave Mr. Zupke at ICANN. Borrowing some words from his letter (which can be found elsewhere on this site): "Unfortunately, letters like yours . . . which do not include any actionable specifics . . . are not particularly helpful. . . . I appreciate your frustration; we just need greater detail."
dclarktcco - Samson Go Away Registered | 2007-02-23 11:30:06
Samson,

The purpose of this site: to openly discuss problems people had with RF, solutions, places to go to issue complaints against RF and to generally vent. Some people did not even realize till the past 6 weeks that there were issues. Their billings were going through, they had no need to get auth codes or unlock their sites (Auth codes is new too). The one thing people do not take well is a conceited person coming on here gloating that he is a genius (Self proclaimed, mind you) because he smelled trouble and ran. Most people by virtue and by rule of thumb give a company two chances. Some may have had an issue, then considered giving RF a second chance to redeem themselves. That backfires, but it does not make anyone here a fool as you in a round about way are telling people here.

My title tells to go away because: YOU HAVE NO ISSUES BECAUSE YOU GOT OUT IN A TIMELY MANNER. OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T NEED SUPPORT, SO GO AWAY AND LET US STAY ON TOPIC!
gj1 - enom control Registered | 2007-02-23 20:37:21
I'm in Ireland - I only found out today!!! No hint of anything before that, and the timing was pure coincidence.

I can't log on to RF now. Is it all down?

Deb
kimvette Editor | 2007-02-24 19:19:45
Hi Deb,
Try again Monday.
Kevin Medina is supposedly going to be arrested then.
Samson - Suit yourself Registered | 2007-02-23 11:46:22
But in all honesty I don't think giving people false hope is the way to handle it. Providing false trust in a criminal enterprise is foolish. Expecting criminals to do right by the people they victimize is insanity.

If giving that kind of real world advice is unwelcome here then this site no longer serves the proper audience.
RoyalValetParking - I wish Registered | 2007-02-23 11:56:16
I wish someone from RF would come in here and at least say something ie: we're working on it, we acknowledge you all or go to HE double hocky sticks we all know this is a mess we got to deal with. The lucky ones got out. All my domains were just fine until I decided a month ago I wanted to save $100. on a server and copuldn't edit my nameservers. I'm dizzy just thinking I may lose 485 domains (only 6 of which are vital) Arguing amongst ourselves isn't solving anything. Sure 1 or 2 people got scared early and had no faith in RF. I have had domains there for 5 years now without a single problem (many have been there longer) But I did what I could. I wrote ICANN I reported to Paypal that they were still accepting deposits, I called RF and got a person who spoke maybe 3 words of english and now I sent them a bill, probably to the wrong address, to have my balance refunded. I also filled out a form here concerning my 6 vital domains (haven't heard back yet, probably wont) but I do know one thing. We are all victems here and trashing each other or calling another dumb because they didn't see the signs isn't getting us anywhere. If you were lucky enough to see the light early my hat off to you, you were lucky not smart. Nough said lets just hope this mess ends up coming out smelling like roses and not crap.
ajmurphy1 - Attention John and Glen Registered | 2007-02-23 12:57:02
Now that it has come to light and been exposed that RegisterFly conducted illegal and fraudulent activities against us, their customers, I believe that your path out of this mess should not be limited to only giving back domains that your company stole, and to fixing the domain manager so we can all manage our accounts properly. I understand that these are the main issues for a bunch of people out there but what about those of us who lost hours and hours of our time, our clients and ultimately lost our entire businesses because of Registerfly”s recklessness, lies, theft and mismanagement? Registerfly should be required to make restitution to those of us who lost our businesses and our clients, in addition to giving back domains that they stole. John and Glen, if you are reading this – what about it? Are you guys willing to be held accountable to those of us out here who lost OUR businesses? Or do you only care about getting your business back up and running again? A free renewal extension, or working hard to make the new Registerfly.com the best service out there, hiring a “dream team”, Etc. – this alone doesn’t cut it – not with me anyway. I lost my business because of you guys and I want some kind of restitution for this if your company is going to be allowed to climb back up the ladder again and continue operating your business. RegisterFly should not be allowed to continue operating unless it compensates ALL of us out here for our losses. Either fold up RegisterFLy.com and go live in a park someplace and take your bankruptcy like the rest of us who you hurt and took down the drain with you, or help us to get back up on our feet too. You guys aren’t going to do this though, are you? You just want to save your own necks and get back to living the good life again, don’t you? All I see in your letter is, *we’re sorry* and *we just want to get everything working again*. So if you do recover – where does that leave the rest of us out here who placed our faith and trust in you and your company, and who were put out of business because of your company’s screw ups? Forgotten – that’s where it leaves the rest of us! Forgotten and left out to dry – left to pay for YOUR screw-ups, while you guys go on and continue operating a “for profit” enterprise.
Dangerous Dan - Here come the lawsuits Registered | 2007-02-23 13:57:57
RFly might well be able to re-enable auth codes and DNS functionality. But how many customers will transfer out as soon as that happens?

And how financially solvent will the company be once the blizzard of lawsuits from those who lost their names begins? There's no doubt that RFly did NOT exercise fiduciary responsibility in reigning in its partners gone amuck.

Malfeasance, embezzlement, unlawful personal enrichment, you name it. I don't see any valid defense Rfly can offer. The likely scenario will be judgment after judgment finally forcing RFly to go bankrupt.

Too little, too late IMHO.
gelo Registered | 2007-02-23 14:17:12
Oh I don't know... All this seems like some kind of another scam to me.
I don't understand why the hell put the support form on a third party site and not on their own.
I don't understand why the hell make some useless statements for third party sites and not make a usual newsletter or put the statement on their own website.
I don't understand why the hell speak to admins from third party sites and not to their own customers.
If somebody can explain it to me I will be grateful.
Abused - You won't get compensation fo Registered | 2007-02-23 14:35:04
All this talk about claiming compensation for your lost domains, its not gonna happen.

NO registrar is responsible in any way for the loss of any domains, read the terms of service next time you register one.

There may be legitimate claims in other areas but as far as the registration system is concerned domains are of no value and you have no right to compensation for them if they are lost in the system.

Its sad but that's the truth and you should start to deal with it instead of pretending to yourselves your gonna get compensation.

I'm in the same boat as the rest of you, I even signed up to those wankers at ENOM and to date they have ignored all my support tickets, no doubt they want my domains and there seems to be nothing I can do to stop them.
colinnwn - Par for the course Registered | 2007-02-23 14:35:45
Just called 973-404-8430 @ 14:10 CDT. Visha (or something like that) said "would like to unlock my domain but, very sorry their systems were down" and to please call back next business day.

Just like yesterday, and the day before that, and the day before that, ad nauseum. Nothing has changed and they are either not yet in control of their hardware, or they are willfully blocking transfers.

Glenn Stansbury's contact info is supposedly glenn@registerfly.com, 793-909-4169 if anyone else would like to complain also.

Someone wake me up when something actually changes please!
freddieb - DNS changes Registered | 2007-02-23 15:06:46
I've managed to successfully change DNS settings, worked in about 12 hours, so something's starting to happen.
RoyalValetParking - Well I got some good news Registered | 2007-02-23 15:09:42
Looks like 3 of my transfers just might go through. Odd thing though is the transfers are being done by enom not RF
freddieb - re: Par for the course Registered | 2007-02-23 15:10:02
colinnwn wrote:
Nothing has changed and they are either not yet in control of their hardware, or they are willfully blocking transfers.

Someone wake me up when something actually changes please!


They can't wilfully block transfers. I've been told by GoDaddy that providing you have the auth codes and initiate the transfer corrctly, if RF(or any other registrar)doesn't approve the transfer the Registry will automatically allow it after 5 days.
revelationdesign Registered | 2007-02-23 15:44:19
They are blocking them by setting our domain status to:

Domain status: clientTransferProhibited
clientUpdateProhibited

Even when we've specified in our accounts that we want to unlock.
jax1492 - re: re: Par for the course Registered | 2007-02-23 15:18:15
freddieb wrote:
colinnwn wrote:
Nothing has changed and they are either not yet in control of their hardware, or they are willfully blocking transfers.

Someone wake me up when something actually changes please!


They can't wilfully block transfers. I've been told by GoDaddy that providing you have the auth codes and initiate the transfer corrctly, if RF(or any other registrar)doesn't approve the transfer the Registry will automatically allow it after 5 days.


did you have any luck switching to go daddy.com?
colinnwn - re: Par for the course Registered | 2007-02-23 15:19:09
Quote:
doesn't approve the transfer the Registry will automatically allow it after 5 days.


Well, I can try again, but I tried 10 days ago to move my domain to http://mydomain.com/ with the auth code found in my registerfly control panel. I got an immediate reply "BAD AUTH CODE" from mydomain.com.

Looking in my control panel it says my domain is unlocked, but on whois.net it says "Status: clientTransferProhibited." It seems to me they are blocking it somehow by either not unlocking them or providing incorrect AUTH CODES.
RoyalValetParking - re: re: Par for the course Registered | 2007-02-23 15:26:08
freddieb wrote:
colinnwn wrote:
Nothing has changed and they are either not yet in control of their hardware, or they are willfully blocking transfers.

Someone wake me up when something actually changes please!


They can't wilfully block transfers. I've been told by GoDaddy that providing you have the auth codes and initiate the transfer corrctly, if RF(or any other registrar)doesn't approve the transfer the Registry will automatically allow it after 5 days.



3 times i tried mine at namecheap and they failed because RF didnt approve it.
freddieb - Transfers Registered | 2007-02-23 15:34:35
I tried one the other day wigh GoDaddy, it should come through today, hopefully, but I got the e-mail from RF for me to either allow/disallow the transfer and it said it should happen on 24th, so we'll see
freddieb - Unlocking Registered | 2007-02-23 15:45:29
I'm managing to unlock my domains at RF at present.
freddieb - Renewals Registered | 2007-02-23 16:01:55
I've just managed a renewal at RF, so things ARE changing!
colinnwn - Uh...oh... Registered | 2007-02-23 16:13:49
Looks like you just sent money to Kevin Medina!
http://registerflies.com/hacked-send-no-money.html
Sorry freddieb.
berlincity - oh god Registered | 2007-02-23 16:21:13
I am from Germany and excuse me my english are not very well, but john ! i dont understand you! before you write this letter...please make sure you are know whats going on ....oh god what a start...back in business 14 days left...come on..you get it!!

freddieb - Money Registered | 2007-02-23 16:24:01
Well, nothing much to lose, I've got/had $75.63 credit with RF, so it came out of that, and I received e-mail saying it had been renewed, so the proof's there(if that'll be any good)

I've just initiated 2 transfers with GoDaddy, managed to unlock my names, update the contact info and so far it's looking o.k.
Stevek - ICANN rides to the rescue in R Registered | 2007-02-23 17:33:47
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/23/icann_registerfly_accreditation/

Touched by an Ombudsman
By Burke Hansen in San Francisco → More by this author
Published Friday 23rd February 2007 04:58 GMT
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In a sudden about face, ICANN has concluded that it does indeed have authority over renegade domain pusher Registerfly.

A lawsuit against the recently ousted CEO that alleges corporate spending on such sumptuous perks as escorts and liposuction, not to mention a Miami Beach penthouse, has shone a harsh light on the inner workings of the failing company, and left increasingly desperate and angry domain holders with nowhere else to turn.

Kurt Pritz, the senior vice president of services at ICANN, has posted on the ICANN ombudsman blog a letter to Glenn Stansbury, VP of operations at Registerfly, threatening to revoke Registerfly's domain accreditation unless the company cleans up its act in the next 15 days.

Registerfly, which controls approximately two million domain names, has come under withering criticism recently. Complaints of rampant over-charging and grossly negligent handling of domain registrations over a period of two years have led to the creation of angry websites and stinging criticism of ICANN itself.

Although the letter (formally known as a "Notice of Breach of ICANN Registrar Accreditation") provides a two-year timeline of customer complaints of alleged Registerfly misbehavior, until now ICANN has steadfastly maintained, at least publicly, that disputes between a domain holder and a registrar were not its responsibility.

The customer complaints listed in the letter provide a unique view of a company in utter disarray. According to ICANN, employees in the "Risk/Fraud" department worked on a pure commission basis, leading to rampant overcharging and retaliation for customers saucy enough to complain. One particularly heated customer service argument allegedly resulted in the customer's 220 domain names being transferred to the name of company CEO Kevin Medina.

Even ICANN got burned. Near the end of the letter, ICANN documents its own three-month campaign to force Registerfly to pay $131,422.86 in back accreditation fees owed. Registerfly is still in arrears.

Although a recent Reg article provoked an angry public response from ICANN ombudsman Frank Fowlie, the sheer volume of criticism seems to have made clear to ICANN that something needed to be done.
Kevinm - Be careful IP:69.168.164.23 | 2007-02-23 18:44:01
As the Current CEO (always have been), I can assure you John Naruszewicz and Glenn Stansbury are FOS. Our legal counsel has sent the appropriate response. There is a restraining order being sent to both parties to ensure the charade of impersonating employees of RegisterFly is over. Both John Naruszewicz and Glenn Stansbury were terminated on 2/12. We sent more details and requested to provide evidence to the administrator of this site and he did not respond and in fact adapted a pro-john response. John\'s access to our systems were revoked today (contrary to what he said). He is NOT an employee of the company nor is glenn stansbury. Bother have been terminated and proof of their termination can be provided. The proof and the damages to be filed against both of the aforementioned will be visible within the few weeks. Mr Naruszewicz tool what is a personal relationship vendatta(10 year relationship gone bad) to the doorstep of the company and it is a shame.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 18:51:06
Right, we believe you

Some questions for you, Kevin:

1. Why do you not simply unlock our domains, you go your way, we go ours. You are holding our livelihoods hostage.

2. I have two domains in pendingDelete status, domains which are critical to us. I have documentation proving we paid for those domains and that we are the rightful owner, and that they are up to date. Why did you not submit the renewal to ICANN?

3. Why did one of our domains simply disappear from your system without a trace?

4. Why did John and Glenn meet with ICANN instead of you?

5. Why have you not responded through official, high-profile outlets?

6. Why do you not simply unlock our domains, you go your way, we go ours. You are holding our livelihoods hostage.

7. Why do you not simply unlock our domains, you go your way, we go ours. You are holding our livelihoods hostage.

8. Why do you not simply unlock our domains, you go your way, we go ours. You are holding our livelihoods hostage.

9. Why do you not simply unlock our domains, you go your way, we go ours. You are holding our livelihoods hostage.

10. Why do you not simply unlock our domains, you go your way, we go ours. You are holding our livelihoods hostage.
admin - Please provide that proof. Super Administrator | 2007-02-23 19:19:17
If you have proof, then provide it. Don't send me an email from legal@unifiednames-inc.com that you freshly registered under your own name playing off to be an attorney.

Why are you paying $10,000 a month to live in an expensive penthouse and not taking care of the customers?

You better answer some questions on her. If you have proof, send it.
kimvette - re: Please provide that proof. Editor | 2007-02-24 01:35:43
admin wrote:
Why are you paying $10,000 a month to live in an expensive penthouse and not taking care of the customers?


*gasp* how dare you ask a question like that? Why, why, it's almost as though you are implying that personal responsibility exists and that Kevin's highest priority should be his customers! Surely you jest?

Oh no, no, no! His highest priority is to hurl insults at John and Glenn, those individuals who are "pretending" to care about the customer. He has to save face and save his job, and not rescue customers' domains for which his company is responsible for losing.

Thanks for being the straight man looking to do the right thing, Kevin. It's not as though our domains matter. Our livelihoods which you hold hostage are of no consequence as long as you have your penthouse apartment, your high-dollar prostit -- er, I mean "escort," and your toy-sized dog in your arms. THAT is the important stuff.

Not the thousands of small business owners you are hindering or even putting out of business. That is not important at all and does not concern you in the slightest.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 19:32:09
Kevin's IP is 72.28.136.247

[b]Admin's IP is the one you reported. Admin's IP shows on that post because he deleted the post, then he had to edit it to undelete it when I convinced him that Kevin should be allowed to state his side of the story.

You reported the wrong IP address. You should follow up on that abuse report and inform them that you made an incorrect reportm, and apologise for the misunderstanding.[/b]
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 18:55:38
Admin is trying to avoid a shitstorm. I am working to convince him to let Kevin voice his side of the story, then we, the paying customers , can choose whether or not to publicly crucify him.

Personally I would love to see Kevin beat up right now - I would PAY to see that - but let's hear his side of the story. I'm sure it stinks to high heaven, but there are always two sides to every coin.

In this case though, I think that Kevin's side is the manure-coated side of the coin.
Kevinm - response Registered | 2007-02-23 19:03:41
1 - What are the names?
2- If they are in pending delete are they past redemption

3 - Need more detail

4 - because they are looking to perpetuate the charade. After some investigation Glenn is in our NJ office MAYBE once a week. For someone who is VP of ops I would imagine being in NJ more than once a week is required. I yanked him as the primary icann contact as of 2/3 due to complaints of him not handling issues for 7-10 days when he recived them. For a guy who purports to be the next best thing since sliced bread it all makes sense.

Our folks iin FLA can unlock any names under rfly, tucows , lb etc. We are still working on enom. I am working on getting the SSL cert also updated tonight. Nothing but useless and destructive lies from Glenn and John. Understand Glenn Stansbury who lives in a house in Avon NJ recieived a 17K personal loan from john which I suspect is the basis for his web of lies.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 19:07:10
Kevin, if they are pendingDelete and we paid for them and are past redemption, it is YOUR willful negligence which caused this to occur. There is sufficient evidence to pierce the corporate veil and I will not hesitate to pursue action to get these names back.

It is FULLY within your power to regain control of these domains for me, your paying customer. All you need to do is log in, view support tickets, and read them.

If you want to know the domain names, you can go to the open letter I published here and on slashdot, and contact me privately through those means. This is YOUR responsibility and in the light of the evidence laid out publicly YOU are PERSONALLY responsible for RF's negligence.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 19:10:33
the domains show as current in my account, Kevin.

You were paid for these domains, Kevin.

You will correct this, Kevin.
freddieb - Request Registered | 2007-02-23 19:18:43
Kevin

Are you able to reassure those of us who have been your faithful customers (myself for nearly 8 years) that all of these problems are going to be sorted out without any loss of domain ownership or funds that are deposied with RF?
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 20:54:44
According to him he cannot (read: will not) resolve such issues, if you re-read his post. ;)
kimvette Editor | 2007-02-24 11:33:49
OH, KEVIN DEAREST!!

Didn't you say the certificate was going to be fixed last night?

Well, you still have the expired certificate installed on the site!

Installing a new certificate takes maybe ten minutes - if you're a two-finger hunt-and-peck typist.

So, please tell us, oh mighty one, what is the hold up NOW, pray tell?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Oh please, PLEASE do not tell us that you are completely full of 100% grade-A bull manure!
Stevek - BLAME GAME Registered | 2007-02-23 19:05:02
Everyone is pointing fingers at each other and blaming the other for all the problems.

I don't know if it's Medina or his partners at fault. I do know that a criminal activity cannot be ignored.

Many of us would like to see the guilty party go to jail.
freddieb - Blame Registered | 2007-02-23 19:13:16
I don't care who's to blame, who's right, who's wrong, I just want to see THE CUSTOMERS, us, with their rightful domains, with the correct status, with all contacts intact, with the correct funds showing and allowing us to transfer if we want, renew if we want, lock/unlock if we want.

All the other s**t is between ICANN, the Law, Kevin John etc, to sort out.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 19:16:15
Amen to that.

The two domains in pendingDelete, domains which are indicated as up to date and paid for in my RegisterFly Account Control Panel, represent our livelihood.

Based on the evidence I have seen to date, Kevin Media is personally responsible and I expect him to correct the matter immediately.
kimvette Registered | 2007-02-23 20:53:42
You forgot to name some other culprits behind the scenes, according to rumours:

- Tocows
- eNom

Now, I do not know if this is true (I cannot stress that enough), and I will NOT reveal the source of this rumor under any circumstance. The ONLY reason I post this here is that if there is ANY truth to that rumor, that we NEED someone in the know to be a whistle blower.

I KNOW I can get my domains back by going through WIPO; I have sufficient documentation dating back to WELL over one year ago regarding our plans for two key domains. However, I do not look foreward to having to visit the UN to get a couple of paid-for domains back into our control, and I do not look forward to the attorney fees involved.

On the bright side, there is sufficient evidence posted here and CBR online to pierce the corporate veil and recoup attorneys fees and probably even lost time (I worked on THIS all week rather than billable client work) from Kevin, John, and Glenn.

I prefer the path of least resistance though, and that is this: that Kevin, John, and Glenn simply fix the back end. renew expired domains. reclaim the pendingDelete AND DELETED domains, and leave it at that.
mopey - just a funny thought... Registered | 2007-02-23 20:41:40
amidst all this, while anxiously awaiting the fate of my puny list of domains, a funny thought entered my head... could be the sun: "... all this could never happen in Singapore."

Sigh. Hope some REAL ACTION is taken soon to release the hostaged domains. If there is any sincerity on ANYONE's part, either to resolve the problems or to rebuild RF, the best course of action would be to simply release all the domains for owners to decide where they wanna go.

Later, when the dust has settled, open a new shop, hang out your shingles and start again. Sincere actions will bring sincere appreciation, and business CAN be built again.

Talk is cheap. It's the heart that counts. Act.
sjwitz - Response to KevinM Registered | 2007-02-23 20:58:42
Kevin,

Please be advised that there are weeks and even months of complaints logged on this site, including at least one from myself personally. It is for this reason that I am no longer a R'Fly customer.

Given these circumstances, and given ICANN's formal complaint (which appears itself to be unprecedented), I think you can do better than merely accusing your former partner of engaging in lies. A whole lot better.

Respectfully, on the issue of customer service alone, you have a lot of explaining to do. I can personally testify UNDER OATH as to trouble tickets being deleted and extended hold times well before the events of the past two weeks--to say nothing of tickets being ignored entirely. Today, of course, I witnessed first-hand calls for technical support being connected directly to a "all circuits busy" recording.

The entire forum is open for your review. Please review these and respond. Thank you. --SJR
ajmurphy1 - Response Letter To Kevin - And Registered | 2007-02-24 00:09:56
Kevin,

WHAT ABOUT THOSE OF US THAT YOU PUT OUT OF BUSINESS??? There is at lease one other lady who wrote about this one here, and I know there are others. At first we are told that you are at fault. Now you're coming here and telling everyone that John and Glen are at fault. Hey man, I think you should ALL go to jail. You guys have been LYING to us, steeling from us, cheating, throwing rude and "arrogant" customer service reps at us, and jerking us around for several years now. How come you guys are acting like this is something that just now happened? This is something that's been going on, growing and getting worse and worse as time has gone by and it’s been going on for a LONG TIME. I still have three domains with you guys. Theses are domains that I have tried and tried to move to someplace else but my transfer requests always failed. Hell, for that matter, I haven’t been able to use half of the features In your so-called control panel/domain manager because the xoxofu thing NEVER works properly! I have tried and tried to point out problems with the Domain Manager to customer support, originally thinking that this would be helpful to you guys and that you would eventually fix things. But oh no, in return for those efforts all I got back was arrogant reps who argued with me, and, on at least one occasion came right out and called ME a liar, saying I didn’t know what I was talking about. It wasn’t me who didn’t know what I was talking about; it was YOUR rep, who could barely even speak English, let alone understand what was going on. It was YOUR REP, who was lying and who didn’t want to do anything but sit on his lazy ass and do nothing! I even provided documented proof of the problem but still your customer rep said I was lying. Then, your rep threatened to close my RegisterFly account because I was “harassing them”. I wasn’t harassing anyone – just trying to get things to work and to be able to do what I paid you guys for in the first place (and what you guys advertised COULD be done) – nothing more. I did manage to move some domains to other registrars but I consider that as more luck then anything else, and the amount of TIME, MY TIME, that it took to make the transfers cost me a LOT of what would have otherwise been “Billable” client time. This means LOST revenue, that was needed to pay bills with. I actually had to turn down some client business because I was too tied up, time wise, with RegisterFly problems to have the time left over to handle revenue producing work. And then there’s this: In one case, you guys actually collaborated with a third party, went into my account, changed all of the contact information and then moved the domain away from RegisterFly and off to a completely different registrar and put it into the name of the 3rd party. You guys assisted this third party in steeling away this domain - RegisterFly ASSISTED with this transfer without permission, even though I was the Administrative contact and OWNER of the domain. You guys are all a bunch of cheating, lying thieves! In addition to this, you guys prevented domain renewals, which I paid for, and caused some of my clients, including my LARGEST client, the largest jewelry manufacturer in my state, to go offline. When their website went down, because of your company's mismanagement, my client lost thousands of dollars in sales - then I lost my client and went out of business. Yes, I am completely PISSED off at you and at everyone at your company that had anything to do with all of this shit. You guys are CROOKS - pure and simple. This went on for way, way, way too long for ANY of you to be able to just hide and point fingers, pretending that it was all the other guys fault. It was ALL your faults!!! DO YOU HAVE ANY INTENTION OF COMPENSATING ME, AND OTHERS LIKE ME FOR THESE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU GUYS DID? DO YOU????????????????? I’m not talking about just a lost domain name here, I’m talking about the loss of our entire businesses here. You guys played a roll in this – you should be held responsible and I don’t’ see ANYTHING in ANY of your messages here, nor in any of the messages or other letters put out by anyone else at RegisterFLY that addresses this. Do you guys think that just because you keep quiet and don’t acknowledge us out here, whom you have hurt in these ways, that we don’t exist and will just dry up and disappear? Do you REALLY think that all you have to do is fix the company back up, maybe give away a few free renewals, make a few things start working, and then everyone will just jump for joy and you can once again start making profit projection sheets for the coming years?

I've been on the fence for awhile about this, but now that I know that there has been massive fraud - deliberate acts on the part of your company to defraud and steel from all of us, I am going to an attorney this coming Monday. If I can file a lawsuit against you guys, it will be done! See you in court. You are all chunks off of the same slime block as far as I am concerned. I hope you all wind up living in a park someplace, having to take showers in the public restrooms – or better yet, behind bars, where you all belong. It’s going to take a LOT of convincing for me to change my mind about this. If people like me, who trusted you guys with OUR clients and OUR businesses have to go down, you should go down too!!!!! Harsh, yes, but it’s also harsh that I, and others like me had to loose our businesses because of you shit heads! You are a prime example of Big Corporate Business going totally amuck. You guys make a total mockery of the entire capitalistic system. I hope you’re ALL real proud of youselves!
azos - hello? Registered | 2007-02-26 08:32:01
So where is the truth? Who is having who arrested? Who is giulty of what? John & Kevin started registerfly, they have (had?) a special, close, relationship. So, why would Kevin have kept John in the dark? Glenn has always been their yes man and scapegoat, and was also put in no win situations by Kevin without having the power to resolve any of the issues because final word came from... guess who, everything was forwarded to.... guess who. And... guess who never responded, leaving Glenn to take the abuse.
It's all bullshit, a reaction to ICANN. Show me proof - who has fired who? Without any proof I'd have to believe they're just playing everyone again.
Freelancealot - Lord of the Flies Registered | 2007-02-26 18:48:28
Hi,
I also lost a domain in December (2006) due to Registerfly's lack of customer support and huge problems with renewing domains. I was just about to lose another one due to further problems with Registerfly (ie non communication) when I got the eNom notification. I transferred two of my domains immediately to eNom.

One (teamva.biz), however, is still with Registerfly and even though Protectfly is disabled in my account and I have put myself as the contact, Registerfly have not taken Protectfly off - the position I'm in now, is that I can't prove the domain is my mine.

I've tried to transfer to my UK registrar, as I've lost some faith in the US ones due to these problems, but of course, if Registerfly won't answer me, their long time customer, why would they respond to a UK registrar ready to take business from them.

Registerfly don't answer phone calls, emails or support tickets. I even got diverted to a Toll Free directory service the last time I had been left hanging on the phone for Registerfly - and I'm calling from the UK!

Some response to the support ticket I sent two days ago about my faulty Registerfly panel - ie they won't let me list myself and my contact deails as the registrant of my domain even though it says successful once I made the changed, you do a whois and... there's the Protectfly info - would be nice. An answer to my phone calls, with some useful help would also be a bonus.

Being stuck in the UK I feel helpless, if I was anywhere near the Registerfly offices, I would certainly be banner waving outside their front door!!

Of course, I accepted eNom's kind offer of transferring the two domains they could, now eNom's website is down... Isn't it time some US government authority stepped in to save the day!?

Tracy
bloggerman - Update at Court :) Registered | 2007-02-27 02:35:40
27-cv-00703-PGS-RJH UNIFIEDNAMES, INC. et al v. MEDINA
Peter G. Sheridan, presiding
Ronald J. Hedges, referral
Date filed: 02/12/2007 Date of last filing: 02/16/2007

ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE why an Order for preliminary injunction should not be issued, etc.. Show Cause Hearing set for 3/8/2007 100 AM before Judge Peter G. Sheridan. Show Cause Response due by 2/26/2007.. Signed by Judge Peter G. Sheridan on 2/15/07. (dc, ) (Entered: 02/16/2007)

Just passing on the information ;). Also found a few more documents on pacer, which is $.08 a freaking page! I'll download anything and everything and will provide more tomorrow.
legaadmin - Let's do something guys. Registered | 2007-02-27 19:15:39
I propose to every of us to email ICANN with request to not expire domains registered with Registerfly, AND EXTEND ALREADY EXPIRED WITHIN LAST MONTHS, before everything will sattle. This is a real solution.
n2cbo - An open letter to John Narusze Registered | 2007-02-28 21:16:47
John, I hope you read this. I went through a similar problem with a partner back in 1988. I LOST EVERYTHING!!! I even had to spend a couple of nights in jail because of what my partner did. He cleaned out our bank account, and flew off to Israel where I couldn't have him extradited back to the US (He was Jewish and they have a law that no Jew can be extradited out of Israel)(I am not trying to blame Israel or the Jewish people, just stating a fact). I was the corporate treasurer, and it was my signature on most of the checks that paid the bills, and payroll (although we all had signing authority). I wrote out checks that I thought had funds to cover them (I just had deposited over $150,000.00 in the bank the day before, and there was another 100K in working capital) When the checks bounced, I was charged with the fraud (Under NJ law at the time I was responsible personally as corporate treasurer because I SHOULD have known...). I know how easily this can happen to any good company. I want to give the new registerfly a chance to do it right on the first try (I am a NJ company as well) (I had already given the "Old Registerfly" over 20 chances to do it right, and they failed).. John, I wish you luck in rebuilding your business back, and hope you learned a lesson (just as I have) about partners. Please if you can expedite the renewal of my domain "watergapmedia.com" and fix my web site "orn.com". because I am out of business until it is fixed.

Thanks and good luck

Mark Emanuele
President & CEO
Omega Radio Network
A Watergap Media Group Company
(732) 738-6833
JimAdmin - GIVE ME MY AUTH CODES Registered | 2007-03-01 00:00:58
To: RegisterFLY

Please give your tech support people the ability to me my auth codes.

I have been calling for over 2 months. My 4 domains show "RRP" as the auth code, but I get "Invalid Username/Password" when I try to update my contact info.

Please give your tech support people the ability to me my auth codes.

I will call again tomorrow.
Jim
Twiceshy - Wesite totaly down Now ?? Registered | 2007-03-06 12:34:29
Sheeeeeeeeeesh i have 12 domains with you several that are my main income and now it seems i am doomed

What the hell are you going to do to rectify this ? We all need control of Our Domains back . Do something honourable like stepping up to the plate guys registerfly do whats right
websecom Registered | 2007-03-30 03:15:48
Its too late. How registerfly can operate without iccan license ?
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