ICANN today issued a formal notice of termination of RegisterFly.com's Registration Accreditation Agreement (RAA).

ICANN has issued a letter to RegisterFly [PDF, 902K] indicating that it will cease operating as an ICANN-Accredited Registrar on March 31, 2007. Under the terms of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA), ICANN must provide 15 days written notice to RegisterFly of its intention to terminate.

Effective immediately ICANN has terminated RegisterFly's right to use the ICANN Accredited Registrar logo on its website.

Between now and 31 March RegisterFly is required to unlock and provide all necessary Authinfo codes to allow domain name transfers to occur. Any and all registrants wishing to transfer away from RegisterFly during this period should be allowed to do so efficiently and expeditiously.

"Terminating accreditation is the strongest measure ICANN is able to take against RegisterFly under its powers," Dr. Paul Twomey, President and CEO of ICANN said today.

"ICANN has been frustrated and distressed by recent management confusion inside RegisterFly," Dr. Twomey, President said. "I completely understand the greater frustration and enormous difficulty that this has created for registrants."

When the Agreement is terminated, ICANN can approve a bulk transfer of all current RegisterFly domain names to another ICANN accredited Registrar.

"Of course, RegisterFly does not have to wait till then. They can request ICANN to approve a bulk transfer immediately. I call on RegisterFly to act in the interests of registrants and seek such a transfer from us straight away," Dr. Twomey said.

ICANN intends to hold a forum to discuss the reform of the Accreditation policy and process at its Lisbon meeting in a week's time*.

A set of questions and points to inform the discussion will be made public prior to the Lisbon meeting.

* The Lisbon meeting is one of three meetings held a year by ICANN to meet with global stakeholders. It will take place from 26-30 March 2007.

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MNLNI - Whats our next step? Registered | 2007-03-16 22:32:22 Now what should we do with the domains without auth codes and domains with registerfly as contact info?

DFA Registered | 2007-03-17 00:49:10 RF stuffed up my whois all together and I have a pending renewal with them. Unless the domain is renewed I will not be able to update the whois. I have tried but it states it can't because the domain in question has expired. On last check my domain had not been released or Auth codes provided. What to do..

RSB - WWW Meltdown effects (number o Registered | 2007-03-18 07:59:25 Attn everyone... Can anyone write a professional or acceptable News Brief named "WWW Meltdown Effects (number of effected people)!!" Urgent!!! I'll get the news brief to CNN and Reuters and other global media through my contacts. Please write the news brief presenting the events till now.

edpudol - What about our domain expired? Registered | 2007-03-16 22:59:05 I wondering if ICANN also have control or have plan to our domains that was expired and can't renew at registerfly and now expired.

mikey1 - The $hit has hit the fan Registered | 2007-03-16 22:59:28 The $hit has hit the fan everyone

f**ckedFly - You all better move out asap!! Registered | 2007-03-16 23:06:45 It's over for RegisterFly, thanks to the efforts of some great people I know ;) without this site "RegisterFlies" we wouldn't have seen this day, the day and end of RegisterFly, no more ICANN seals of their site!! I just wish that ICANN can take down www.registerfly.net asap as this is the work of the guy who stole from all of us ;)

endemixllc - Not sure if ICANN did the righ Registered | 2007-03-16 23:13:29 Amazing....Sarah has been working hard but if ICANN pulls the plug, what does RF have to lose? At that point they could just walk away from the whole mess since they no longer would be trying to keep their Accreditation. I think ICANN should dangle their Accreditation over their heads like the proverbial carrot until all customers are happy, then pull the plug on these inept cat fighting fags.

admin - Thank you ICANN Super Administrator | 2007-03-16 23:14:22 Wow... is about all I can say right now. This is probably the biggest decision ever made in the history of ICANN. Thank you ICANN! This has been a long time coming and over the past couple weeks ICANN and Mike Zupke have taken the actions necessary to assist customers in any way they can. I'd like to thank Mike Zupke for assisting those folks out there that needed it and thank you for finally recognizing this problem and taking care of it. I know this has been a stressful week for all. I also owe a thank you to everyone who has supported the efforts of this site and our goal. We were finally heard and although it took a long time, we stayed the course of time and never lost sight of our purpose. For all of you that still have domain names tied up at Registerfly, I think things are going to smooth out. Keep all your records and all your screen shots as we continue on working together to bring your names into safety. Thank you all for being patient as we infiltrated the castle and captured the flag.

gtcway Registered | 2007-03-16 23:19:25 What about domain names that registerfly didn't renew, even though I paid them and the name is now registered by someone else? Guess it's gone for good

PPNSteve Registered | 2007-03-16 23:46:01 so.. will we get access to our domains? how is this going to work for us who've been falling through the cracks? lets hope so.. time to update my still pending support ticket.

a101 Registered | 2007-03-16 23:53:44 ICANN had better be holding forums or something to figure out WHAT they are going to do with all the remaining customers/domains still at Registerfly! Ain't this a fine MESS! .

sirchadlington - GREAT Registered | 2007-03-17 00:02:45 I'm happy to see ICANN is taking a step in the right direction and actually taking drastic action. The only question now is... will RegisterFly's Kevin do anything about it? Now that he doesn't have any grounds to keep RF afloat... he has no motivation to help any of us. He could just sit back and not do anything, which means people with domains still in their accounts will have no chance of getting them back. ICANN is demanding RF to unlock and do certain things... but RegFly doesn't have any reason to listen to them now, and they haven't listened to them in the past. I hope RegFly does as ICANN says, lets everyone get out peacefully, and closes its doors. But whether or not that will actually happen is yet to be seen.

dljones - Mike Zupke Registered | 2007-03-17 00:08:42 I would like to thank Mike Zupke publically for his help in getting my last domain out of RF - at least I have the auth code now and it is transfer pending - which is more than RF could do in the last 6 weeks. I hope ICANN will continue to help those that are left and fix the problems of domains that were stolen by squatters that are in dispute. Great Job Mike! and Thanks a lot!

dsmj - KUDOS to the Registerflies! Registered | 2007-03-17 00:19:37 Congrats to the persistence and unheralded efforts of the Registerflies admin and team players. Thanks out to Dr Twomey, Mike Z. and Frank et. al. of ICANN. Thanks out to Brian Dunn and Bob Parsons, Nima and Warren at GoDaddy Radio and lifeonline. I edited the video comment to include this development. http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=512723016&channel=493148924 There is hope for The WEB and for Us and for planet earth at large from the results of this. Take names - Kick butt - the bad guys will get dug out of the holes they slither into and they shall be removed from the scene. Also, i have made many new friends around the planet, in many different countries, as a process from getting into this, thanks, its great to know you - shouts out to all.

briman1970 - Congrats to Registerflies! Registered | 2007-03-17 00:32:56 The kind of effort that admin has undertaken and seen to it's fruition is rare nowadays. Thanks for sticking to your guns Justin and helping to rid the net of the kind of garbage that is Kevin Medina and company. F*ck you Registerfly. I'm so glad this is the last time I have to say it. Keep my $41.96 and shove it Medina, you low-life, worthless excuse for a human-being.

JRBHosting - Dugg! Registered | 2007-03-17 00:32:58 http://www.digg.com/tech_news/RegisterFly_is_Done

traveltext - Great news but... Registered | 2007-03-17 00:50:38 Registerfly have now lost any incentive to sort the mess out. This now looks to me like a situation where there'll be years of legal wrangle before there's any action. For those of us with no auth codes, sites down, no access to nameservers, and losing money, it's a disaster. If this is being regarded a good outcome, I'd hate to know what a bad outcome might be!

choie - I agree with traveltext Registered | 2007-03-17 01:27:31 Seems like this is bad news to me -- ICANN steps in too late, then washes its hands of the situation. What incentive does Medina/RF have to help anyone whose domains he's already ripped off via changing the WHOIS info? Now he can sell them off or turn them into link farms. I can't get into my client's account because it's been suspended (despite our having paid for it), RF's changed the WHOIS info, and I & my clients are out of luck. What am I supposed to do?? Ugh.

FWayne - Thanks Justin et al. Registered | 2007-03-17 01:32:56 Thanks Justin for all your work. I wonder how much longer ICANN would have let this rotting fruit that is RF stay on the tree if it were not for your efforts? Thanks downdoggy for helping me transfer my domains. Thanks to everyone who has posted. You all deserve a round of applause. It may not be totally over for domain holders, but I think it's over for RegisterFly.

mrpaco - customers testimonials Registered | 2007-03-17 01:38:12 If you want to see what does registerfly customers say, read this page http://www.registerfly.com/info/praise.php Got from http://www.registerfly.com/info/about.php with a bit of sarcasm...

whizz - 15 days? Registered | 2007-03-17 02:26:34 ICANN acted. Yes. Mike Z tried to help (ignoring the "wait 24 hours" for nothing). Yes. 15 days to unlock and release? Yeah, right. No offense Mike Z, but this is probably the first time glacial ICANN has faced a situation in which 960,000 domain name holders are getting screwed by a totally ineffective system of controls over registrars. One could ask why registrars even exist? Just another way to generate revenue for people who resell the services of a registry? Surely registries could be set up to handle the consumer volume ... transfers should, of course, be an entirely registry based process and, authorization codes should not exist – as someone else pointed out, they don’t help us, they really only help the registrars. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm expecting ICANN to put in place some processes with the actual TLD registries to help make sure we get control of the names that RegisterFly has corrupted (I'm being kind) entries for. If ICANN doesn’t do that then there are several organizations and world governments that should look into the question"why ICANN". We're relatively lucky: there are only just over a dozen of our names left to move now, out of which only three are expired (they shouldn't be, of course). None are particularly "attractive" so we can always grab them back in the future. All our critical and valuable names are safely elsewhere. However, I'm sure others are in worse shape and I hope that ICANN manages to help us all. If not, there is always class action, but given that Kevin, John and Glenn probably don't have much to go after, who would we pursue? On the other hand, Kevin does have a condo in Miami – party time anyone? Thanks again to Mr. Admin for creating and sustaining this site - we all really can't thank you enough. Thanks also to many of the contributors for sharing the ins, outs and tricks that have been needed to ditch RegisterFly.

RSB - note to whizz (and all) Registered | 2007-03-18 06:55:48 Thanks for your holpful words. I had 14 domains with RF, and one of then was let expire (even they have $118 in my credit PLUS autorenew) and I tried hard but it was too late. It was snatched by a link farmer and just being sold back to me for $1k. I paid the ransom and still waiting the process, and trusting the farmer. But my other 13 domains!?? No codes, no response. I wroye to ICANN with a list of my (now) 13 domains, so I'm hoping they will save the day...otherwise they'll look worse than Medina for being so useless.

RSB - World News Registered | 2007-03-18 06:59:05 Someone should inform the global media, like CNN, about this giant mess on the WWW. It would be big news.

xaver - Next steps Registered | 2007-03-17 03:34:01 RegisterFly virtually lost all its value. There is some value in the domain names not yet transfered away and this will be sold to an other registrant. This sale will be under tight control from ICANN, just to make sure, that everything goes more or less ok and they have a precedent if something similar happens again. (More or less ok means that there will be loss of domains up to some hundreds, but over 95% of domains will be fine.) RegisterFly will try to sell its domain management software as well but this will be separate business opportunity, that does not matter for ICANN. I think this is the optimistic scenario, there can be some worse situations as well, which will require more technical involvement then ICANN is able to carry out. I have over 100 domains at RegisterFly, majority of them now being transfered away, there are around 10 that are still in 'limbo'. RRP or no text instead of Auth Codes, less then 60 days domains, and one .co.uk domain.

legaadmin - We have to help ourselves! Registered | 2007-03-17 03:37:54 Those who have "hanging" domains, which are expired and only RegisterFly support can solve the problem, those have to fight together against RegisterFly. And do not give up! We have to gather here at registerflies.com or some other place like forum or whatever (I can setup one if needed). If we stay together and will be acting then we get noticed and we get our domain back. If we will be on out own hoping that it maybe setup somehow itself - we will loose the domains! Domain is just a name. It can belong to anyone, and registrant can be changed at any time if there will be legal reason. So if you lost your domain today, this does not mean you can't get it back. But you have to fight, all together has to fight. If we do, we will win. The truth is on our side!

RSB - News Brief Registered | 2007-03-18 07:05:25 Can any talented person write a professional news brief?- about this case. We can get it to the media. This should make big news. I don't have all the facts, nor experience, to write the News Brief, but if anyone can do it, I'll get it to CNN, etc.

Dunning - NO RESOLUTION STILL FROM ICANN Registered | 2007-03-17 04:03:20 Well, I will not be thanking ICANN untill I get my auth codes ! I contacted ICANN (Mike Zupke) and have waited more than "2 business days" for registerfly to comply... still nothing. I still have over 37 domains at registerfly with blank Auth codes and whois (domain missing when I try and insert my whois data) and money taken from my account has NOT been refunded. RF still refuse to acknowedge support tickets, faxes, emails, phonecalls etc. When I suggested on the ICANN blog that RF have commited fraud I was shot down by Kieren (ICANN) even though it quite clearly states at the top of the ICANN blog that they (ICANN) have asked Registerfly to stop taking money from peoples accounts without supplying services. Is that fraud or isnt it? What I want to know now is how ICANN intend on doing this mass transfer they are talking about in their latest public notice, considering that my whois data is missing and my domains are displaying 'not found' when I try to enter my correct whois data, and my auth codes are missing? Why has ICANN stopped posting updates on their blogg/website when they stated earlier that they would keep us informed? I am damned well fed up ...

SouthAfricaRed Registered | 2007-03-17 06:31:01 All I can say is that I've managed to transfer all my .com, .net and .info domains away from RF in the last week. It's just my .co.uk that remains, but that will hopefully be sorted this coming week. Dealing with Tucows the registrant Thanks to everyone on this site that helped me to do that I feel sorry for the people that have expiring domains or locked domains. They face an uncertain future. I hope you all get sorted out and dont lose anything in the process

nmutchler Registered | 2007-03-17 06:38:34 Dunning - your frustrations match mine perfectly - I have the same scenario as you,except I have 5 critical domains, with 1 of them showing as 'domain not found'. None are expired yet, thank god. I did find one thing - if you go to your account manager - and tick the box on 1 of your domains with no info that won't allow you to update - It's the bulk manage feature - then go to the bottom of the screen and click modify. then do the drop down for modify contact information - it will show your correct information - all except the billing (in my case) I took a screenshot of that (for what it's worth) - and have saved emails that show where I tried to edit my information for those domains. I would be interested in keeping in touch with you to compare our experiences. gramma at ix.netcom.com

cube1 Registered | 2007-03-18 08:05:34 Email them again -- but you cannot just reply to the message you got back (with the 2 day part), or you will get a "Ticket has been closed" response. You will need to create a second message. I found that to be somewhat helpful, though I am still not out of the woods.

Festus Registered | 2007-03-17 06:47:19 Haw Haw Haw!!! Now I can celebrate even more on St. Patrick's Day!

Kakao - RPP and ProtectFly Registered | 2007-03-17 08:40:03 I had success transfering two domains. Now I'm trying another two. In one I get the RRP auth code and in the other I can't disable ProtectFly.

AHMark - Transfer of domains Registered | 2007-03-17 09:54:07 WOW Not unexpected. I just switched to http://resellercore.com/ if anyone is still looking for a new loaw cost reseller. (NO SETUP FEES, NO MINIMUM DEPOSIT). I put in motion the transfer of 3 out 4 domains from Registerfly.com Only reason Registerfly.com would not allow the transfer of my last domain is that it was only registered 30 days ago. Hopefully the above news covers all domains and not just those registered longers tha 60 days. I do recommend http://resellercore.com/ So far I am impressed. Whois searches are instant (in seconds). Plus they offer other products to resell as well. (Just my 2 cents worth of an opinion)

majestic21 - auth code for .name Registered | 2007-03-17 10:04:34 any help in .name auth code? i still can't get the auth code and nothing from Mike Zupke even after sending mail to them

Yankee - No ICANN accrediation? So wha Registered | 2007-03-17 10:24:38 Registerfly is still open and still has the ICANN logo on their website. What's changed?

shadoze - What about domains that you ar Registered | 2007-03-17 10:59:21 I've got quite a few domains with RF that don't expire till later this year, but I am not going to renew them, so I don't want to pay to transfer them, any idea how all this is going to affect these types of domains? will they stay live? will they be assigned to another registrar?

sjwitz - re: No ICANN accrediation? So Registered | 2007-03-17 11:04:14 Yankee wrote: Registerfly is still open and still has the ICANN logo on their website. What's changed? Supposedly R'Fly no longer has the right to use the ICANN logo. But my guess is that ICANN will probably be forced to obtain a court order before it actually gets removed off the website. --SJR

kimvette Administrator | 2007-03-17 14:15:17 Or maybe the same blackhat or disgruntled employee who is responsible for registerfly.net will remove the logo so ICANN will not have to go to the courts? Just a suggestion. If you're going to be cracking. be productive with your fun.

dsmj - ACTION Registered | 2007-03-17 11:23:30 Registerfly.com website has, at no point in this process, displayed much of any visible response to this on the homepage. No Help, no Useful news. THAT is an insult to us, those that are harmed and seeking a solution. Even worse, there are likely thousands of domain owners that are still unaware anything has happened at all. Basically the IT and Geek world is only partially aware, see the dumb questions by the microbrains at slashdot.org - THIS IS A GLOBALLY IMPACTING TRAINWRECK IN PROGRESS, and many of the people on that train dont even know it yet, and dont find out untill thier domain name becomes a LINKFARM page. my video clip has perhaps helped, but its more like preaching to the chior. Those that need to know are still not aware of this situation Though we can Thank ICANN for acting in some manner, the resolution of this situation has barely begun. Registerfly ( by some guesswork and research ) has around 600k .info's and possibly up to 1/4 million .com .net names still in its grasp. This sort of seems like an ENRON mixed in with the need for a SUPERFUND Hazmat recovery in a situation where ICANN and "We The People" are not funded for this cleanup. We are going to need those with the resources and power to help, Verisign, GoDaddy etc... or something. This needs to be escalated to Global news. I think i get get it into NPR but thats not enough. I have to go shovel 2 tons of snow off my roof now.... Grrrrrr

PPNSteve - re: Thank you ICANN Registered | 2007-03-17 11:37:07 admin wrote: Wow... is about all I can say right now. This is probably the biggest decision ever made in the history of ICANN. Thank you ICANN! This has been a long time coming and over the past couple weeks ICANN and Mike Zupke have taken the actions necessary to assist customers in any way they can. I'd like to thank Mike Zupke for assisting those folks out there that needed it and thank you for finally recognizing this problem and taking care of it. I know this has been a stressful week for all. I also owe a thank you to everyone who has supported the efforts of this site and our goal. We were finally heard and although it took a long time, we stayed the course of time and never lost sight of our purpose. For all of you that still have domain names tied up at Registerfly, I think things are going to smooth out. Keep all your records and all your screen shots as we continue on working together to bring your names into safety. Thank you all for being patient as we infiltrated the castle and captured the flag. Now all we need to do is get that flag over to our homeland.. lets hope with the ICANN ruling and all the public pressure, RF does what it should and process transfers, etc. i did get a phone call from godaddy saying that they are indeed using the ICANN disaccreditation notice to expedite one of my expired .net transfers.. lets hope it works.

pissedoff Registered | 2007-03-17 11:48:30 Na na na na, hey hey-hey, goodbye Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye Listen to me now Registerfly you are going down.

pissedoff - re: No ICANN accrediation? So Registered | 2007-03-17 11:51:17 Yankee wrote: Registerfly is still open and still has the ICANN logo on their website. What's changed? ICANN has issued a letter to RegisterFly indicating that it will cease operating as an ICANN-Accredited Registrar on March 31, 2007. Under the terms of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA), ICANN must provide 15 days written notice to RegisterFly of its intention to terminate. The 15 days are not up so registerfly will probably use the Accreditation Logo until the very last day

gearedup - CONTACTING ICANN WITH ISSUES Registered | 2007-03-17 12:09:26 Here's one for you!!! I sent the "so-called" required list of domain names that I was having problems with, including the date and the specific problem I was having with Registerfly to ICANN at: transfer-questions@icann.org ....I started this process early last week as I was instructed to do! The response I just got from ICANN???? "The ticket you are referring to has been closed. If you feel that this is in error, please submit a new email with no ticket number and a new ticket will be created. Thank you." This is the response I received after the "wait two days" letter. NOTHING HAD BEEN ADDRESSED, CORRECTED OR FIXED. I have the SAME problems I did when I wrote the letter!!! ...Now I'm getting the same support as Registerfly provides. ...... I am so disgusted.

BobfromCA Registered | 2007-03-17 14:36:38 My concerns are same as Dunning and others... several names show no owner/admin info, I get error when trying to change info (domain not found, etc.)... some are expiring in a few weeks... I feel trapped. Other concern is expense of transferring my client names that are not expiring for a couple more years. I think ICANN should request or ask for volunteer registrars to take Registerfly names for free - no cost to either party - no extension of expiration... incentive will be eventual renewal income and new client. I have already spent several hundred dollars transferring names - where I won't bill client until their normal renewal time - some a few years off! How 'bout it GoDaddy - take my names for free - no extention of 1 yr. and I will renew with you when it is time to renew the names.

Grafix Registered | 2007-03-17 15:16:35 I just got off the phone with the mopes over at RegisterFly. The Miami number. Reason - I tried to renew one domain yesterday and again today (twice since the first time didn't go thru - I don't even care about the money at this point) and I called to inquire about the status. I desperately need to do something because it's one of my main domains and it's about to expire and I just prayed that the renewal would take effect but it didn't. What else is new??? I was told by RF customer support that all their servers are down, and that I should transfer my domain away from RegisterFly to another registrar until they can get it together, and then transfer back to them. (As if??? What moron would return to RF if they can ever get away in the first place???) HELLLOOOOOOW!!! I can't move my friggen domains (50+) because I can't get the friggen ProtectFly off. Every time that I try to remove ProtectFly I get a friggen error message. I was very polite of course, I would never rant to any customer support telephone help because that gets you nowhere. So she tells me that she'll put in a tech support request and for me to "call back" on Monday!!! Jesus Christ!!! When is this nightmare going to end???

fitzgerald99 - pendingDelete Registered | 2007-03-17 15:55:32 Hi I have 4 domains that were allowed to expire due to RegisterFly's misconduct, charging for renewals that were never honoured etc. The domains then went into Redemption well before the purported 30 day Grace Period had elapsed. They are now listed as pendingDelete. I cannot afford to have these domains go into public availability. Who can I contact and what can I do? I do not know who can restore the names now, and am not even sure of what pendingDelete means. I have sent emails to ICAAN and Verisign (manager of the .COM registry as they are .com names) but have not received any replies yet. As far as I understand, PIR, the manager of the .ORG registry, has said it will restore all RegisterFly names that have gone into RGP / RHP / pendingDelete status. Verisign has issued no statement on this issue, although we are all hoping they will do likewise. I just phoned them and spoke to Verisign Customer Service and was told that there has been no official word from management, so they cannot comment, and that management is away for the weekend. Who can I contact and what can I do to recover these domains? Please advise. Thanks.

flyswatter - snapping Registered | 2007-03-19 14:15:52 fitzgerald99- Not even if registerfly wanted to help could they do anything for you right now. Your only recourse right now is to go through pool.com and/or snapnames.com. I would suggest both. Pending delete will last about 5 days and the be released. These companies will snap your name for you and charge you $60 only if the snap is successful. I would suggest this to anyone who has important names that are expiring. It doesn't cost anything to order them. For those getting your ICANN tickets closed, do a reply all to the tickets. I did that and although I got a ticket closed notice, I did receive a response from registerfly. They sent me the auth code and told me the name was unlocked. So far the name isn't showing unlocked at the registry, but I have a small bit of hope. This is the first response I've ever received from them.

Tomer_P - Domain is locked, I think Registered | 2007-03-17 16:28:10 Hey, My domain name status is: Code: Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited It's locked? stolen by RegisterFly (Kevin Medina?)

flyswatter Registered | 2007-03-19 15:09:56 Your domain is locked. The status will show OK when it is unlocked.

rodr - March 31 != Immediately Registered | 2007-03-17 16:51:41 But close enough, I guess, considering ICANN's normal pace of action.

jr507 - Awesome News Registered | 2007-03-17 16:59:36 This really makes me happy. I almost now don't mind how RF screwed me. I've been posting about it on my website, jimreilly.com and now I get to write the happy ending. They lost one of my client's domains, and did nothing, repeat, NOTHING to remedy the situation, including a refusal to refund my payment. I love it.

pactum - I guess Registered | 2007-03-17 18:03:03 .. that all I can do is what I've been doing, worrying, retrying, and waiting. I dunno. Thankfully, I have only one domain without an auth code. But I have about 15 domains still stuck in locked status, several of which will expire in the next couple of weeks, and one main domain (my main web site biz domain) which expired on the 7th (bringing my nameservers down). It remains to be seen whether I'll be able to sneak out of this mess after March 31. I have my doubts that the issues with my main biz domain will ever be resolved....

whizz - BizWeek Print Article Registered | 2007-03-17 18:43:57 Check it out. Just got the latest issue of BusinessWeek in the mail today. Steve Hamm has done a 1 page article in the current issue titled: "Is Your Domain Safe" Hats off to Mr. Hamm! He pretty much skewers RF and points to ICANN taking a long time to do anything. ICANN is reported to be about to bring about reform proposals at its board meeting this week ... something about "more training for registrars". Ha. ICANN, read this: You don't get it. The registrar system is unregulated, fragile in terms of durability and obviously subject to questionable practices, though some might use the adjectives "fraudulent" or "corrupt". So, you just want to train them to do that more efficiently? No definitive statement from ICANN about helping to protect the customers that are being creamed by RF. There are some good folks at ICANN (such as Mike Z.) and let's hope the ICANN board listens to them ... Fortunately, Mr. Hamm has brought reporting this fiasco into the mainstream press and that is a very good thing IMHO. It is stunning that there is so little other coverage of this - hundreds of thousands of customers impaired/hurt, millions of domain names involved, scandal, Federal court, etc. Why, other than BizWeek, is there so little about this out there - and, by the way, where is the Dept. of Commerce and the FTC when you need them? Thank you Mr. Hamm - let's hope others read your work and take notice

Nuclear Moose - Accredited or not - who cares? Registered | 2007-03-17 19:39:36 Registerfly loses its accreditation but that changes nothing for me. I still can't renew my expired domains nor can I get Auth Codes to transfer my other domains. This doesn't feel like a win to me at all.

diogenes99 - bulk tranfers by ICANN Registered | 2007-03-17 20:27:43 In a bulk transfer, if it happens, I bet the domains with non-registerfly DNS information will be ok. But most, I bet, are URL forward domains. They are screwed in a bulk transfer. And what will happen to the registerfly hosted sites?

Dunning Registered | 2007-03-17 21:34:27 As whizz said... Quote: You don't get it. The registrar system is unregulated, fragile in terms of durability and obviously subject to questionable practices, though some might use the adjectives "fraudulent" or "corrupt". So, you just want to train them to do that more efficiently? I couldnt agree more... The system is open to corruption and they are not addressing that issue. Why dont ICANN have a record of every domain name's owner details (whois) so when something like this happens they can recover domains for the owners? Also, if ICANN were aware that registerfly were taking money from peoples accounts without providing a service arent they liable for NOT reporting it to the authorities? eg: if you see a crime being committed, you are guilty for NOT reporting it or helping out !

Dunning Registered | 2007-03-17 21:45:54 One more point that is really getting on my nerves. ICANN has not exactly gone out of its way to notify those in the dark that their domains are at risk. At least GODADDY has put a banner on their website alerting RF customers that the carriages up ahead are crushed... and the destruction is coming their way. You know... I contacted the New Jersey BBB (?) last year about all this crap with RF and they advised me NOT to blog on this website !!!! EVERYONE has their heads in the sand! Well, I work for one of the online mastheads for News Corp. I will definately be chatting with my editor about publishing a story this week about this fiasco.

CedarPark - re: CONTACTING ICANN WITH ISSU Registered | 2007-03-17 22:35:15 gearedup wrote: Here's one for you!!! I sent the "so-called" required list of domain names that I was having problems with, including the date and the specific problem I was having with Registerfly to ICANN at: transfer-questions@icann.org ....I started this process early last week as I was instructed to do! The response I just got from ICANN???? "The ticket you are referring to has been closed. If you feel that this is in error, please submit a new email with no ticket number and a new ticket will be created. Thank you. NOTHING HAD BEEN ADDRESSED, CORRECTED OR FIXED. I have the SAME problems I did when I wrote the letter!!! I just received my 2nd response from ICANN telling me my ticket is closed and if I am still having problems to email them again and they will open up a new ticket. This is bull! I don't know what is worse.. not having my tickets from RF answered, or having ICANN tell me its answered when its not.

cube1 Registered | 2007-03-18 08:08:56 Yes, that is what you have to do - email them again. When they send the 1st message, it closes out the ticket, so the auto responder deep sixes the response. Reply to the original message, but yank the ticket number out of the reply subject. Always remember that an awful lot of folks who are not responsible for this mess are trying to do what they can -- be persistant, but be civil to them -- even the RF folks answering the phones, as well as the ICANN folks who are trying to help and some of the folks inside RF that are trying to be helpful when they can.

dsmj - Video #2 Registered | 2007-03-17 22:37:23 http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=663505452

each1 - How about the money we paid??? Registered | 2007-03-17 22:53:58 I want my money back...

Dunning Registered | 2007-03-17 23:07:04 nmutchler Quote: I did find one thing - if you go to your account manager - and tick the box on 1 of your domains with no info that won't allow you to update - It's the bulk manage feature - then go to the bottom of the screen and click modify. then do the drop down for modify contact information - it will show your correct information - all except the billing (in my case) I took a screenshot of that (for what it's worth) - and have saved emails that show where I tried to edit my information for those domains. Yes i know about that... all it is doing is populating your saved or default whois data into the contacts fields... but to what effect? As soon as you try and save it you get an error stating 'domain not found' and the fields revert back to being blank. I dont think it is of any use m8. Surprisingly, the 'domain not found' problem is NOT a new one. I was experiencing similar problems last year and even before that ! I have asked Registerfly REPEATEDLY to fix my control panel and corrupted information for a few years... They have been notified by many other irate customers for a LONG LONG TIME that there are corruptions within their systems and data. I even had domains in my control panel stating renewal X.X.2007 that I DID NOT RENEW and DO NOT OWN any longer! However they are still there... I call them GHOST DOMAINS. Clear case of negligence on their part. LOL, I STILL get domain renewal reminders for domains that were either moved long ago or I no longer own... Its the biggest mess I have ever seen. Glad these idiots are losing their accreditation.... now we just need to make sure we : 1) get our domains that have no AUTH/whois info back... and I guess that is ICANN's court now. DO NOT give up and let ICANN wash their hands of it! 2) Ensure that the people responsible are NEVER allowed to be involved in a registrar again ! Wouldnt it just suck if they started up a new registrar and ICANN gave them accreditation ? DONT LAUGH... it could happen !

edpudol Registered | 2007-03-17 23:59:12 I wish ICANN make their move now, don't wait March 31. I agree with the other guy point, why they don't ask one of those registrar to accomodate all domains in registerfly.com including domains that can't be renewed.... with out charging 1 year renewal process. There are lot of sites, including some of my domains are big sites and source of our living but all expired and can't be renewed because of this mess. Why ICANN wait another 15 days, is that mean that we will wait 15 days before we eat?

Stanley Registered | 2007-03-18 00:58:16 [sarcasm] Well now...that fixes everything doesn't it ICANN? [/sarcasm] I still can't renew, manage or transfer the few names that are left at RegisterFly. My emails to ICANN and Enom are unanswered. Apparently everyone that should be being held accountable for this mess is being given a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card.

traveltext - HA HA HA Registered | 2007-03-18 02:30:11 Wow a sign of life af Rf. Check out: https://registerfly.com/scripts/account.php Special Offer! YOU ARE OFFICIALLY f**cked by our boss KEVIN. He f**cked me then he f**cked you. visit www.registerflea.com to find out just how f**cked....

mcihellec - my problems with registerfly Registered | 2007-03-18 04:51:11 i have a few domains with them and we are unable to transfers. In fact my domain always keeps on appearing and disappearing very often. In fact, i have monies in the account but still cannot get back my money. and the thing is the domain does not have any auth code to allow me to transfer. i hhope all peoples' issue can be solve asap and that we can transfer out out domains.

Dunning - OFFICIALLY FUC%$# Registered | 2007-03-18 06:32:02 Well, I was just trying to finish screen saving stuff in Registerfly, and this appeared on the HOME PAGE: Special Offer! YOU ARE OFFICIALLY f**cked by our boss KEVIN. He f**cked me then he f**cked you. visit www.registerflea.com to find out just how f**cked.... Well well, looks like he has screwed over yet another employee... All I can say is hahahahaha

blakilox Registered | 2007-03-18 06:35:53