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Tuesday, 29 May 2007
GODADDY.COM REACHES AGREEMENT TO HELP REGISTERFLY CUSTOMERS
850,000+ Web site Names in RegisterFly Portfolio to Be Moved to GoDaddy.com

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. (May 29, 2007) – GoDaddy.com®, the world’s leading domain name registrar, has reached an agreement with RegisterFly® and ICANN® to transfer over RegisterFly’s portfolio of Web site names to GoDaddy.com. The move will help resolve problems involving hundreds of thousands of domain names around the world.

RegisterFly customers have been affected by recent problems and the impending loss of RegisterFly’s accreditation as a domain name registrar. GoDaddy.com will notify RegisterFly customers of the switch and automatically move their domains for them. Customers can get support and answers to any questions they have at a dedicated GoDaddy.com hot line and a designated “welcome” Web page. Once the switch is complete, more than 850,000 domain names will have been moved.

“We worked with ICANN to effect a migration of the RegisterFly domains to GoDaddy.com and help those customers left in limbo,” said GoDaddy.com CEO and Founder Bob Parsons, widely considered an industry watchdog. “It’s what many RegisterFly customers asked us to do. After they are moved over to GoDaddy.com, all RegisterFly customers will once again be able to manage and renew their domain names with confidence and will also enjoy the world-class support we provide all our customers. We expect the move to be completed over the next week.”

“The RegisterFly situation has been extremely difficult – first and foremost for registrants, as well as for the entire registry and registrar community ,” said Dr. Paul Twomey, president and CEO of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), the nonprofit company responsible for global coordination of the Internet’s  system of unique identifiers like domain names and the addresses used to help computers reach each other over the Internet. “The GoDaddy.com agreement is the best possible solution for RegisterFly customers since it's a direct and automatic transfer to a competent and experienced customer service oriented organization.” 

Those who still go to the RegisterFly Web site will be directed to Go Daddy.com for managing and renewing their domain names. However, some RegisterFly customers had chosen to move their domain names to GoDaddy.com even before this deal.

“After I had some issues with my domain names, I decided to transfer over to GoDaddy.com,” said Sean Gallagher, CEO of Web design company ATLWebSite.com and former RegisterFly customer. “The customer service I receive is exceptional. I have a lot of clients relying on me, and because GoDaddy.com is a safe, reliable and friendly registrar, I don’t have any problems.”

GoDaddy.com is the world’s largest domain name registrar with more than 20 million domain names already in its portfolio before this move. More than 4 million customers rely on GoDaddy.com for domain name registration, Web site hosting, SSL certificates ensuring Web site security and related products. <*>   GoDaddy.com is working with the generic top-level domain registries, such as dot com and dot info, now holding RegisterFly names to make sure the transfer goes smoothly. New GoDaddy.com customers with questions can call a 24-hour dedicated hot line at (480) 366-3500. They can also get more information and answers at  www.godaddy.com/welcomeregisterfly.

About The Go Daddy Group, Inc.

Go Daddy® is a leading provider of services that enable individuals and businesses to establish, maintain and evolve an online presence. Go Daddy provides a variety of domain name registration and Web site hosting services, as well as a broad array of on-demand and other services. The Go Daddy Group, Inc. has more than 20 million domain names under management. Go Daddy registers, renews or transfers a domain name every 1.3 seconds. GoDaddy.com is the world's No. 1 domain name registrar according to Name Intelligence, Inc. GoDaddy.com is also rated the world's largest hostname provider according to Netcraft® Ltd. During 2006, The Go Daddy Group registered approximately one-third of all domain names registered in the top six generic top-level domains, or gTLDs, including .com, .net, .org, .biz, .info.

Registerfly Customers transfer your domain names for less at DomainPar.com

 

 

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curious observer Super Administrator | 2007-05-29 09:27:32
There are specific details available to those who call, and please don't hesitate to ask. I will be happy to answer any questions that I can.
gllen - BOOM Registered | 2007-05-29 10:50:36
I just called and was told I'd be getting my (new) account information emailed in the next couple days.

I was actually already trying to transfer my domain to GoDaddy. And they have had excellent support with every question I have.
whizz - RF no longer there? Registered | 2007-05-29 11:36:15
We initiated transfer 10 to 14 days ago of some final domain names that RF had "fixed". We got no "confirm transfer" emails from RF, but we did this weekend get "transfer confirmed" emails from GoDaddy.

Nine remain and I'm already talking GoDaddy about what will happen to them as they are the "hard cases" - expired, but paid for and may be still active/in use or may have "disappeared" (showing RF as the registrar but at least still showing our DNS servers in the registration record).

GoDadday says - all will be brought into a new GoDaddy account which can be used or merged with an existing account. We'll see ...

By the way, it appears that the RegisterFly.com website is no longer accessible ...
webbadger Registered | 2007-05-30 13:36:52
Not accurate re: registerfly.com -- I just accessed it and logged in successfully. Although I have transferred ALL my domain names away from them, they still show some of my names in my account list. And, of course - the 20 unanswered support tickets. For all intents and purposes, it seems to be "business as usual" there at Registerfly!
PPNSteve Registered | 2007-05-29 23:29:54
got my name back today..

BUT I had started and paid for a transfer to GoDaddy a month and 1/2 ago and it appears that the renewal date is still showing feb 2007..

hopefully this is just due to the flood of RF domains coming in.. we'll see, and let you all know.
liveNEARregisterfly Registered | 2007-05-30 00:21:18
How will domains be transfered into our existing accounts at GoDaddy?
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-30 00:37:08
New accounts are going to be created, which all domain names will go. From there you should be able to push them into other existing accounts. They say one week time for that to happen
renebruce - registerfraud $$$ Registered | 2007-06-01 16:10:46
avatar Yup I too managed to get many out b4, but the ones that expired, I had a godaddy account so we transfered them to that account, then we got email a day ago and they set up new account so I had to transfer within godaddy ( A pain but it worked), the question I have is this... So Godaddy payed, well who got that money and what do they plan on doing with it, as I vote that they distribute it to all of us who had domains that were hijacked etc.. why should ICAAN keep all that $$ or whom ever godaddy had to pay.. any comments ????


Thanx..

Rene
ps. don't get me wrong I'm glad people are being helped, but the real large pict is the millions of dollars that we all lost, why should whom ever godaddy payed get that $$$ and not us ????
admin - Apologies to everyone Super Administrator | 2007-05-30 00:46:30
Site was down today and I'll do a post on the reason but thanks to Kimvette it's back up and running.
rfkma Registered | 2007-05-30 04:52:31
Any word on hosting be transferred to GoDaddy?? What about domain names that were bogusly "renewed" that others have stolen???
admin - Not hosting Super Administrator | 2007-05-30 06:19:33
GoDaddy has hosting but they aren't going to be transferring Registerfly hosting. Just the domain names. Hosting has no relation to the domain names and ICANN.
Danial Registered | 2007-05-30 09:28:58
DID GODADDY BUY THE DOMAINS OR DID ICANN PAY THEM TO TAKE OVER?
Phoenix - re: Registered | 2007-05-30 09:56:20
avatar
Danial wrote:
DID GODADDY BUY THE DOMAINS OR DID ICANN PAY THEM TO TAKE OVER?


More than likely Go Daddy either paid ICANN and/or RegisterFly to take over those customers. Most of those customers will stay with Go Daddy, so it's free money for them. So yes, Go Daddy would have been expected to pay for them.
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-30 11:43:43
If you read the associated press story, it mentions specifically that godaddy bought the customer database containing the domain names from Registerfly. They did not buy Registerfly the company, and I suspect that this is the reason the deal did not earlier go through, as that still leaves a large legal and financial liability with Registerfly.

But as it became more readily apparent that RF would lose the domain names anyway June 1 in court and ICANN would eventually be able to send in the sheriffs, I think that Kevin became heavily motivated to get the deal done.

I would be willing to bet though that RF will not be able to stave off bankruptcy, because he still owes everyone large sums of money. While he might pay off large creditors (I do not think he got more than $1 per domain name - it could even be more like $.60), he may not be able to pay off a judgement from Clark Dummit.

But both ICANN and enom have pockets deep enough to dip into which I suspect Clark Dummit would reach for.
Danial Registered | 2007-05-30 12:04:36
I must be reading the wrong AP story. I don't see anything specifically about "bought".
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-30 13:07:13
Different versions of the story appeared. Google Registerfly news and read the Wall Street Journal article.
PPNSteve Registered | 2007-05-30 09:31:12
OK bad news.. woke up today to an email saying my transfer was canceled. CANCELED!!

I did not cancel my transfer.. and the dns / whois now shows GoDaddy as owner..

Quote:

************************************************** ****************
ITEM CANCELLATION CONFIRMATION
************************************************** ****************


Dear Steve

Per your request, the items listed below have been cancelled
from your account, 1314####:

.NET Domain Name Transfer - 1 Year: 1-GB.NET

If you feel this cancellation has occurred in error or you need
further assistance, our support staff is available 24 hours a
day, 7 days a week via:

+ Online Support:
https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/support.asp?prog_id=GoDaddy&isc=wwbb566
+ Email: support@godaddy.com
+ Phone: (480) 505-8877

Thanks again for being a GoDaddy.com customer.

Sincerely,
GoDaddy.com

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Copyright 2007 GoDaddy.com. All rights reserved.


[code]Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.


Domain Name: 1-GB.NET
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: No nameserver
Status: redemptionPeriod
Updated Date: 30-may-2007
Creation Date: 11-feb-2006
Expiration Date: 11-feb-2007

>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:10:36 UTC
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-30 11:54:09
RF/Godaddy may have cancelled the transfer(s) on their end, so as to maximize the sale price to Godaddy. Or it could simply be procedural so as to keep the database accurate as they transfer the names over.

It most likely will transfer along with the mass migration they will do later this week.
ultravisiontech Registered | 2007-05-30 11:56:01
What about domains that Rfly has allowed to expire. Is there any recourse to get them back?
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-30 13:05:33
Domains that are expired but not yet deleted will most likely be fine. Did your name delete? When did it expire?
PPNSteve Registered | 2007-05-30 13:25:40
the name was in pendingDelete but when the transfer processed lastnight it was in 'renew now' status.

according to the CSR I spoke with at GD, they are proccessing all the RF domains seperately and he assumes that this trnasfer was pulled due to that.. he said to allow 24 hours for the domain to be back in an account (not mine) that can then be pushed to my account.. also he said that the whois/dns info I edited last night WILL be on the name as it's processed as well as 1YR will be added to the registration / expire date..

still if they sent me a transfer conf email, why did they bother to reprocess it again? Kinda makes no sense to me, but meh.. I'll give them their 24 hours.

currently the website associated (and ns host servers) with this name are NOT working (they were last night) so lets hope they hurry with this process.

I'll post more updates as they become available
digloo Registered | 2007-05-30 16:50:17
What's going to happen to all of the domains that can't be moved because of invalid EPP codes, like "RRP" and "AUTH CODE"?

What I mean is, will we be able to get valid EPP codes for them after GD gets them?

Frankly, it will be nice just to see an accurate list of names I've still got with RF. None of the names that have been transferred or renewed are showing up correctly in my RF account. Some of them are in their Expired list. Some have been transferred and still appear in their Active list. Some have been renewed and don't have current info showing.
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-30 17:36:28
The really do not need authcodes to do a transfer if they have the customer database

Authcodes are a security measure to prevent unauthorized transfer. Nobody suspected that it would be used to hold domain names hostage. The first thing I am going to do when my domain names are with godaddy is make sure each one has an valid authcode.
sjwitz - FYI: New domains with R'Fly Registered | 2007-05-30 17:59:24
All--

Roughly 8-10 days ago, I did a test registration to see how a new domain with R'Fly would be handled. As expected, it claimed to have processed the domain order successfully, but of course nothing more happened. But it doesn't appear that GoDaddy picked up on the registration either.

No monetary loss on my end...but since there have been reports of money actually changing hands with failed renewals, and other reports of unwitting new customers hitting R'Fly's site, I thought I'd let everyone know. At this point, FYI. --SJR
rfkma - Stolen Domains Registered | 2007-05-30 18:19:19
What is going to be done about stolen domains that were paid for but never renewed? I have one in particular that was lost due to RF's scam.
captainproton - Re: Stolen Domains Registered | 2007-05-30 23:49:14
Have you noticed how ICANN has avoided this topic entirely?? I sure have.

This is why there is the Registerfly lawsuit that sues ICANN and enom too.

I suspect that we will see a whole new group of people whose domains are up for expire June/July/Aug/Sept that will fall out the tree with this godaddy transfer and realize they are missing their website/domain name entirely, as Kevin did not proccess the renewal.

The only question is what kind of legal remedy (if any) we have. Clark Dummit seems to be the only answer right now.

Events are still unfolding, so it's kind of wait and see.
maxse Registered | 2007-05-30 23:56:20
OMG guys help. I just registered a domain with registerly.com YESTERDY MAY 30th!!! I only found out about this after I filed ticket which were unanswered and I went to the support page where I noticed that they are no longer accredited. They did not post tha ton the main page.

My site was working for an hour today but has currently stopped working. AM I screwed? I cant believe I just did this today.
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-31 00:42:14
Hi maxse;

Thanks for posting here. Many of us have wondered if Registerfly was processing new registrations or not.
Do a whois here;
http://www.internic.net/whois.html

If the domain name shows up, then Registerfly may have performed the registration. I say may have because they might be 'kiting' the domain name. In which case you would not know that you have it for sure until a week from now. If it does not show up, then they took your money and did not perform the registration. If the domain is still available you should register the domain name elsewhere.

It would be great for all of us if you would report back here, because many of us feel that Kevin is still ripping people off.
maxse Registered | 2007-05-31 00:47:00
here is the whois info I get. I cut out the actual domain name. But why is it currently down after being up for about 3 hours earlier? Will i be able to renew it in the future? And who do I contact since it is down now? I would really appreciate any advice you can give me.

Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net
Name Server: DNS1.REGISTERFLY.COM
Name Server: DNS2.REGISTERFLY.COM
Name Server: DNS3.REGISTERFLY.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 30-may-2007
Creation Date: 30-may-2007
Expiration Date: 30-may-2008
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-31 01:38:05
Hey maxse thanks for posting that!! It shows that Registerfly is reselling domain names through tucows. If you have the domain name a week from now and it shows the same thing, then it is with Registerfly, which in everyones experience here is a bad thing. However, if it reads as go daddy, then it has been moved with everyone else and you will receive an email from go daddy.

If there is nothing or a different owner, then your domain name was "kited" (or 'tasted' as the other operative term) which is even worse and you most likely lost the domain name and/or your money.

If it shows the same thing, grab a piece of chalk and start marking off 53 more days (60 all together) and transfer your domain name to another registrar on day 61. Be very sure you do this, as you do not want to be in the situation many of us are now in down the road. Plus, there will be no godaddy to rescue you.

Unfortunately, it really is a waiting game to see what will happen here (which many of us are doing at this point). This is why it is VERY important that ICANN follows through with the court order to post their notice prominently on RF's website.

It is very important that you do this a week from now (even every other day until then), and I would really appreciate another post on what you find. Because if Kevin let's the name drop, then we know that he still is committing fraud, which case the Florida attorney general would be more likely get involved which helps everyone because an investigation would be done.

update: I just checked my 'stuck' domain names and they are now with godaddy. I have not received the email notification yet.
maxse Registered | 2007-05-31 02:11:32
the thing is that when I do a whois lookup through registerfly.com tucows is not listed anywhere there...

Also what does "kited" mean? Can't I just call my CC company and dispute the charges, since I did not get my domain name?

Also do you guys know the reason it stopped directing to my server all of a sudden? It worked perfectly for a couple of hours but now does not work at all. And my other site that it is supposed to point to is working perfectly. Is it not supposed to work or something?

And lastly, how can it be with RF if they are not accredited anymore???
captainproton - re: Registered | 2007-05-31 03:09:05
maxse wrote:
And lastly, how can it be with RF if they are not accredited anymore???


And then grasshopper manages to find the collective angst of hundreds of Registerfly customers.

'Kiting/domain tasting' is an innocently implemented protocol that has been turned upside down to scam and spam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_tasting

In this case, Registerfly could register the name, but within five days delete the domain name for a refund. In your case, if the domain name does not show up in the whois next tuesday (and it appears to have been deleted already and that it just has not propogated), then you will know that this is what happenned. The domain name may showup in your control panel at Registerfly, but all that means is that Kevin is trying to fool you. In this instance, he gave you one days registration, deleted it, and pocketed the money.

The problem with calling your credit card company and disputing the charges is that Kevin will lock you out of your RF account and you will never get back in again. But forget contacting tech support at RF, there is none. Now can you see why a lot of us are angry?

If your domain was deleted, we would all love to hear about it, as we all want to see Kevin strung up by his thumbs.

For the backstory of how we got here;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registerfly

If you wish, you can send me an email at captainproton11 =at= gmail.com I may be able to provide additional help.

It is very important to catch Kevin in the act here if he is still ripping people off
PPNSteve Registered | 2007-05-31 10:52:29
still waiting for my domain to come back to me from GoDaddy.. This is starting to bring back some terrible flashbacks..

Since canceling my transfer, without auth I might add, Godaddy has changed the whois and dropped my nameservers from the registry.. sound familar?

all we can do is wait..
SkipCard Registered | 2007-05-31 12:36:25
PPNSteve wrote:
still waiting for my domain to come back to me from GoDaddy.. This is starting to bring back some terrible flashbacks..


I'm hoping for the best for you (and for all of us, really).

This is something that I'm waiting to see anyone (ICANN? GoDaddy?) address: GoDaddy bought the database, but didn't buy RegisterFly. We all had a Registration Agreement with RegisterFly, but we now have no agreement with the registrar, GoDaddy, which holds our domains.

I don't know what all this means, but I fear that it could mean situations like yours.
Sender - Check and double check... Registered | 2007-05-31 18:15:24
Going through this process right now -- actually had to go to the Godaddy link to get this process started. Most of my domains were moved over into a new account at GD -- however renewal dates and whois information were off on some domains. Double check everything with the transfer as it looks like there may be some minor bugs in the system.
PPNSteve Registered | 2007-05-31 19:51:25
what link? seems like I have to initiate everything from my end to get anything done.. currently on the phone with GoDaddy yet again.

[i]EDIT: just got off phone with GD. looks like there can be issues with redemption / pendingDelete names so if your name is in that ststus, give GD a call.

Anyway, long story short, rep said, after talking to supervisors 3 lvls up, that my domain WILL be in my account within 24 - 72(max) hours and that they 'waived' the redemption fee, etc..

ok now we wait very impatiently for those hours to pass.[/i]

NOTE: this name went into redemption / pendingDelete due to RF stealing our renewal fees and not renewing the name.
n2cbo - Only one of 15 domains came ov Registered | 2007-05-31 21:53:43
Only ONE out of all my 15 domaind came over in the transfer. NOW WHAT?????
mitgib - Hostage again Registered | 2007-05-31 21:58:16
Well I for one am very displeased with this whole mess again, I am now a hostage at GoDaddy for 60 days, I cannot transfer any of my registerfly names out for 60 days, wtf, how is this good for me, at least at RF I was still able to transfer things out.

I left GoDaddy a year ago and names I transfered out are now back where I do not what them. I lost API access for my customers to maintain their domains and GoDaddy so far has only said I can pay $199/yr to get API access to the names, I get that for free with any other reseller account out there, and I get better pricing at those places as well, this all just stinks.

If ICANN actually did more than collect quarters, we would have had the choice to push our names to any accredited registry out there, or if no action taken, then default to GoDaddy, but to be a hostage for 60 days, this is inexcusable!
envyc - Equivalent value??? Registered | 2007-06-01 00:38:52
A couple of things gall me overall about this whole transfer to GoDaddy:

1. As mentioned elsewhere, the ignoring of other TLDs e.g. .com.au and;

2. Pricing - at RegisterFly, ProtectFly was dirt cheap or free at GoDaddy they want an extortionate $8.99 a year.
Hostage - Only gTLD's are transfered to Registered | 2007-05-31 22:22:32
If you read the releases and notices carefully, you'll see that only the generic TLD's are transfered to GoDaddy.

For those of us with other domains, such as .US, we are still screwed.
captainproton Registered | 2007-05-31 22:43:24
This is why ICANN can not fall asleep at the switch (again) and get a complete copy of the customer database from Registerfly tomorrow, along with getting the notice fixed.
Cossins - Domain name rescued Registered | 2007-06-01 08:03:15
I am amazed. Today a domain name that had been long lost through the RF debacle, was deleted, picked up by a domain stealer, and offered back to us for a price (which we declined) is now back in our control and pointing to our DNS server. Whois shows it's ours and is registered through GoDaddy.

I write this to encourage others to check out their lost names.

Medina should be in prison for his misdeeds.
Lil Peck - Thank you GoDaddy! Bless you, Registered | 2007-06-01 08:08:59
I was thrilled to find all of my domains ( even the expired ones ) waiting for me at godaddy. The only ones missing are the ones that I was able to move to enom, and the ones with .be extensions.

I am satisfied because I had given up hope of ever having access to those domains ever again.

I had not done any development of the domains that didn't transfer over; I do hope that I can regain those as well.
longben Registered | 2007-06-27 14:23:29
For the .be domain names it is advisable to contact dns.be.
As far as I know from personal experience (not transferring .be accounts from Rfly), they are always helpful and correct.
jonepet - Got one name, where are all ot Registered | 2007-06-01 08:14:54
I've got one name of the around 100 names I had on my Registerfly account transferred to my new Godaddy account. Where are all other names?

These names are registered with my customers e-mail adress as domain registrant and admin contact. Do my customers get an account with their names, or will I get all names to my account? If my customers get their own account now, many of them will get free names because they never paid me for their names.
f**ckedFly - I'm Happy Registered | 2007-06-01 10:00:39
to see that finally most of you guys are out of this mess or get the opportunity to get out soon.

Thank god, but still spread the word about RegisterFly as they still operate and do business as usual.
SouthAfricaRed - re: Only gTLD's are transfere Registered | 2007-06-01 10:43:12
Hostage wrote:
If you read the releases and notices carefully, you'll see that only the generic TLD's are transfered to GoDaddy.

For those of us with other domains, such as .US, we are still screwed.


I had a .co.uk that I bought through Registerfly. Fortunately they were reselling for TUCOWS. I contacted Tucows and after a week they gave me access to my domain and I was able to change the Ipsitag to initiate the transfer to another registrar.

If you dont have a generic TLD's check if it wasnt resold for Tucows. Might work for other TLD's besides .co.uk
fredevad - No account email from GD Registered | 2007-06-01 12:04:11
First, my comments:
- Yes, I too knew nothing of this until today when I got my "Welcome to GoDaddy.com" email (which at first I thought was spam because I didn't initiate it).
- Interesting that Kevin was ordered to post a notice on RF website (which is there), but was not ordered WHERE to post it (it's a little blurb on the support page, NOT on the home page where it belongs).
- I too have had issues with my domain name DNS entries "coming and going" over the last week. I feel very lucky that my livelihood doesn't depend on it.
- If RF continues to commit fraud, why can't ICANN get a court order to take over the RF.com domain and post their own "parking page" (anyone remember how Phillip Morris got control of the yessmoke.com domain a few years ago?)
- NASCAR can ban people for life, why can't ICANN?
- Thanks for this site!

Venting off (therapy session over), now my question-
Has anyone else gotten their "Welcome to GoDaddy.com" message, went to the site (GD.com/welcomeregisterfly) and filled out the form, only to receive no email? It looked like the correct email address (counting the asterisks), but I never received the "further instructions" email. I've done this twice now, and still haven't gotten anything. Maybe they are "experiencing high demand" today...?
captainproton - re: No account email from GD Registered | 2007-06-01 12:45:55
fredevad wrote:
First, my comments:
- Interesting that Kevin was ordered to post a notice on RF website (which is there), but was not ordered WHERE to post it (it's a little blurb on the support page, NOT on the home page where it belongs).


Look through the forum/thread/court documents. The court order has done exactly that. It's just that RF are lawbreakers.
sojo - GOT MY DOMAINS BACK HURRAAAYYY Registered | 2007-06-01 14:46:48
Got my domains back today - thanks to Godaddy. Received an email from them saying "welcome" so i called them and logged in and sure enough there were all my domains that i thought were lost forever! Thank God for GoDaddy!
PPNSteve - re: No account email from GD Registered | 2007-06-01 15:38:21
fredevad wrote:


Venting off (therapy session over), now my question-
Has anyone else gotten their "Welcome to GoDaddy.com" message, went to the site (GD.com/welcomeregisterfly) and filled out the form, only to receive no email? It looked like the correct email address (counting the asterisks), but I never received the "further instructions" email. I've done this twice now, and still haven't gotten anything. Maybe they are "experiencing high demand" today...?


mine is even stranger: had some aol email domain in it.. this domain NEVER had an aol anything attached to it.. go figure. A call to GD support cleared up the issue and they PROMISED me it will be in MY GD account within 24 - 72 hours. We'll see...
PPNSteve Registered | 2007-06-02 18:57:05
looks like GD is pulling a fast one.. they are making all kinds of hurdles in my way so that I can't regain access to my stolen name. Now it's something about a change request form and all this documentation they require that just doesn't physically exist.

we wait as they process the form i sent them.

I'll have more updates later as this process continues.
flyaway - Expirefly Registered | 2007-06-03 12:52:56
What is going to happen to the names Kevin moved to his ExpireFly? None of those transferred to GoDaddy.
bigfoot - re: Expirefly Registered | 2007-06-03 13:33:29
flyaway wrote:
What is going to happen to the names Kevin moved to his ExpireFly? None of those transferred to GoDaddy.
Not true!

One (yes, just one so far) of mine transferred to GD from Expirefly.

Most haven't transferred yet, although using the domain watch I can see the process that that they're going through. Registrar change, Status changes (at least 2, sometimes more) and finally they're available to manage.
cpskins - GoDaddy SCAMMED ME Registered | 2007-06-04 10:29:58
I know the title is harsh but in my opinion it's true. They pretty much told me your f**cked we can't do anything. I bought a domain back in Feb 07 off someone while the domain was with Registerfly.com I had the domain in my account and whois is pointing to me and still is. I figured great I can get it back into my account and get things back up and running. But NOOO they put the domain in another account and nothing I can do about it except the other person who by law they can't tell me who they gave it to and ask him to give it back!!! wtf this is a joke Godaddy is a joke. I understand it's a mess but if it was in my account, and the whois points to me should be pretty simple to put 2 and 2 together and keep in mind the registerfly database is a mess and messed up. So pretty much all John C from Godaddy could tell me is to contact icann. Great support!!! will be moving all domains out of there once I get this all fixedup.
portpro - Check with eNom Registered | 2007-06-06 17:28:48
You might contact eNom, some of my domains were transfered to them. Any domains registered more than a few years back were done with eNom. I had to send a screenshot of my registerfly account and a copy of my Drivers License to get them.
cymoo - THE MARINES HAVE LANDED! Registered | 2007-06-05 08:53:25
avatar If you have never seen a Marine Landing.
Which I have not, but all my UNCLES and GRANDADDY's have.

LINE UP!
blakilox - 319 Domains from Down Under Registered | 2007-06-06 11:15:16
Unfortunatley due to financial pressure
Just listed all 319 of my "GODADDY" domains on Ebay, $1 no reserve. Will be of most interest to investors from Australia.

ebay.com.au Item 150130127225
whizz - Good news! Registered | 2007-06-06 16:35:47
We waited a week to see what would show up - one domain out of the dozen or so that we could not leverage out of RF ...

So, I called GoDaddy as the remaining domains were in various states of database damage: no Auth Codes, ProtectFly junk information, expired, etc.

Within 2 minutes the support tech found all the domains had already been collected into an account for which they had no email address (ProtectFly strikes again). We set up the login and then verified the list of names - ALL ARE ACCOUNTED FOR.

Even the names that "disappeared" from our account on RF have been restored to us. Our multiple renewal attempts have been credited as added years of registration.

I personally am stunned and amazed (particularly given the other comments in this thread). GoDaddy really seemed to have done a lot of work behind the scenes and its support people were obviously briefed and prepared.

After months of uncertainty, we have all of our domain names back under our control.

Finally. What a relief.

I hope others experience this efficient resolution.

Top marks for GoDaddy, bottom of the class for ICANN who dawdled far too much and had insufficient safeguards in place. Shame on ICANN – perhaps people at ICANN should wear the name ICANN’T on their badges until they truly can protect domain name owners. It’s really about us, not about creating as many Registrars as possible!

May Kevin rot in some prison somewhere for the trouble he caused and for the greed he exhibited. Hopefully he’ll get to do some Federal time, and, if so, I personally hope he serves hard time - breaking rocks during the day and dealing with the “attentions” of other inmates after work hours might help him experience the pain and violation we felt from his activities.
portpro - Not all Domains go to GoDaddy! Registered | 2007-06-06 17:21:33
Well half my domains went to GoDaddy and the other half went to eNom. Two of my .com domains that went to eNom have been expired for little over a month. ENom charged me $50 each for "Domain Redemption". Does this sound right? I had already paid for renewal at registerfly.com but to no avail.
reversi - finally i got my domains trans Registered | 2007-06-07 05:16:46
Hello,
finally i could regain access to my domains trough Godaddy.

my domains were down since january due to continuous renewal failures.

Today they returned online!

The unique problem is that i have to check all my domains to find which godaddy account has been assigned to them [i saw it is related to the email listed in the contact field].. but i don't care if i have multiple godaddy accounts now.. the good thing is that they all work!

there's only 1 domain left in the "limbo" [with wrong email contacts] but i hope the procedure Godaddy ask to follow will solve this situation..

I can see the light now

thanks registerflies.com
Simone from Italy
tartan - Daddy or Fly what's the diffr Registered | 2007-06-07 06:57:14
I don't know why godaddy!?!
I have 200 domains moved to a godaddy account their system has a bug and It can't send my password reset link and they say that I have to fax a form for every one of my domains and collect 200 ID copies from my customers in order to gain access to these domains.
At least in registerfly my domains were transfered out smoothly but here they have locked them and don't give the authorization codes. Is here anyone who can help me!?!
Are the registerfly authorizations code valid for moving out from godaddy too!?!
LegalWorker - PULLED FROM THE QUICK SAND! Registered | 2007-06-09 13:00:29
----------------------------------

BETTER THEN ANYONE EXPECTED

I AGREE only the short term blind and those with a hidden agenda are complaining,
even if there is some Godaddy,
policy that could be reviewed and refined,

just getting out of Registerfly and getting your
domains back is like being pulled from the Quick sand when you were up to your neck ...

www.Godaddy.com has done a fantastic public service in such a short time,
even with the Proxy "Protectfly" domain names that they have sorted out
for the most part and, returned to the rightfully legal owners.

No one can deny that on this Emergency retrieval that Bob Parsons and GoDaddy.com have done
an outstanding job, and we can hope that they as leaders and innovators they will with ...
shining integrity standardize an industry "Registry Model: with honesty/fairness for domain name registrants

TIP!  If you find someone in Customer Service who seems unable to
solve your problem call them back and talk to another Representative as there are many,
many very qualified company reps who are trained for this task,
especially the ... "Concierge Dept "

Note: You will have to renew your expired and deleted domains names right
away as there is just a short "Grace Window" or risk paying a $80 Redemption fee, ACT NOW!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx x
domain_guy - sounds like you work for godad Registered | 2007-06-09 02:56:30
I cant wait untill I can get out of godaddy. Godaddy is the only registrar that I know of that will lock up your domain for simply modifying the registrant field. they said it was an icann rule..I dont believe it. Between godaddy's fine print and ICANN's lack of ability to function as a responsible entity, I just had to renew with godaddy against my will. On average, godaddy's hostage ploy will force a renew with them 1 out of 6 domains that people have with them. There is only 1 thing dumber than me modifying my registrant field with godaddy, and that was emailing ICANN about it.
Also, dont let a name expire more than 18 days with godaddy. Godaddy will remove it from your account, auction it, and push it to another account without it expiring. the winner keeps the same expiration date, plus 1 year. 50 days to go!
LegalWorker - *WHAT DO YOU THINK? Registered | 2007-06-09 01:14:29
-----------------------------------
*Kevin Medina has "STILL" not posted the required court ordered notice as
ordered when found in "Contempt of Court" on 06/25/2007

The court ordered:
That Registerfly.com shall place within 2/3rds of the way down on the "front web page"
NOTICE of Registerfly.com loss of official accreditation as an ICANN approved registry.

Instead on the "BOTTOM" of the page a deliberate misaligned fuzzy,
hard to read font style has been placed.

The court was specific that if there was noncompliance's that KEVIN MEDINA shall pay $5000 per day to the court,

Kevin Medina has not complied and continues to defraud the public.

I feel if the Honorable Judge Real of said federal court does not collect
the $5000 per day for the continued,
noncompliance's and order Mr Medina back to court to "Show Cause" that a motion for a ...

"Grand Jury Investigation"

WOULD warrant further consideration
of the entire Registerfly scandal of ongoing special treatment for Registerfly.com and Kevin Medina of what appears on the surface to be possible corruption and immunity above the law allowing fraud to be perpetrated .

---------------------------------
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
---------------------------------
=================================
alexsien - TUCOW DOMAIN Registered | 2007-06-09 01:33:27
Hi guys,

All of my domains except for 1 got transferred to Godaddy.

One is stuck at Tucows/Domain Direct. Apparently Registerfly used them as a reseller. I contacted DomainDirect.com, abut they could not help me. They told me I would have to transfer the domain using the Registerfly Control Panel... that doesn't work.

doing whois on the domain brings up this:

Registration Service Provider:
RegisterFly.com,
+1-973-736-2545
+1-973-736-1355 (fax)
http://www.registerfly.com

Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 15-Jan-2007.
Record expires on 21-Aug-2007.
Record created on 21-Aug-2006.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS2.HOSTER906.COM
NS1.HOSTER906.COM


Any ideas on what I can do? has anyone experienced this problem?

Thanks.
John7 - GoDaddy has joined the bad guy Registered | 2007-06-09 08:35:50
I know everyone's time is valuable, so I will be brief and get to the bottom line of things:

1) GoDaddy's 60 days restriction is not only unprofessional, it is also unethical. Of all things that happenned to the victim of RF, GD have just made it worse by adding more insult to the injury.

2) GoDaddy violated ICANN's agreement by impose another registriction if any updates are made (no matter how minor).

3) GoDaddy violated ICANN's agreement by auctioning off names without properly going through the redemption/deletion process.

4) GoDaddy is trying to profit from the purchase of the data from Registerfly by forcing the users to renew at extorted rate or lose the names. GoDaddy then proudly claim themself as a "rescuer" of RF customers. Whew! I needed that good laugh.

5) ICANN chose GoDaddy as the registrar, without going through the due process of allowing competent registrars the opportunity to handle this matter. Who knows what goes on behind the door between ICANN, RF, and GoDaddy.

6) ICANN and RF is right in the middle of a class action. RF have a court order to handle over the data to ICANN. Then ICANN claimed that GoDaddy purchased the data from RF (check ICANN blog). Now, does that make senses to you guys? The court clearly indicated that RF must turn the data over to ICANN. ICANN was to facilitate the transfer, not to allow GoDaddy to buy the data!

7) GoDaddy now claim that ICANN is the one imposed the 60 days registriction. It is time that ICANN step up to the plate and state their position in this matter.

In summary. GoDaddy has just tarnish is already ill reputation by hoping to cash in on the victims of Registerfly. ICANN continue to make bigger mistake and dig themself into bigger holes.

ICANN better not be making any profit from the transaction or they too will be doomed. This is not the first time ICANN make "private" deals. Just look at the track record of ICANN to see how they behaved on the deals with Verisign.

On the side note, one organization called ICA.ORG claimed they are out to change how ICANN operates. I am not sure what these guys have been doing, but for several years I see nothing accomplished. All they wanted was for you to pay a membership fee. Verisign keep raising price, ICANN keep getting away with bad behaviors.

I would not be surprise if GoDaddy's name ended up on the current class action law suit. ICANN, you are fired!
captainproton Registered | 2007-06-09 14:08:21
I am one of those who are quite mad at ICANN for their ongoing (or lack thereof) behavior.

But if you read the court documents on ICANN's website, you will see that Clark Dummit dismissed their complaint against ICANN on May 7.

Presumably because they finally got around to taking action against RF. I think the question needs to be asked how this bodes for the entire case at hand.

I think the problem is that there are a few of us who are upset enough to do something about their losses, but that the vast majority just wants to swallow them and move on.

Really, there are a number of registrars that continually cheat customers. I do not sense meaningful reform from ICANN.
John7 Registered | 2007-06-11 17:33:52
Do you have the link to the mentioned document? I could not find it on ICANN website.
captainfly - Slave trade Registered | 2007-06-11 10:28:31
Couldn't agree more.

They bought a shipful of slaves to make some profit. Sure the slaves are now better fed but that has a price

God souls they are!
John7 - GoDaddy has joined the bad guy Registered | 2007-06-09 08:39:42
Sorry, my post indicated ICA.org. It is really InternetCommerce at http://www.internetcommerce.org/
LegalWorker Registered | 2007-06-12 06:16:09
----------------------------------

BETTER THEN ANYONE EXPECTED

I AGREE only the short term blind and those with a hidden agenda are complaining,
even if there is some questionable prior Godaddy,
Company policy that could be updated/reviewed and refined
just getting out of Registerfly and getting your domains names back is like being pulled from the ...
Quick sand when you were up to your neck ...

www.Godaddy.com has done a fantastic public service in such a short time,
even with the Proxy "Protectfly" domain names that they have sorted out
for the most part and, returned to the rightfully legal owners.

No one can deny that on this Emergency retrieval that Bob Parsons and GoDaddy.com have done
an outstanding job ...
And we can hope that they as leaders and innovators will act with ... Shining integrity and help standardize the Domain industry as a "Guiding Registry Model" with emphasis on no-more-domain tasting unethical exploitation, and demonstrate overall honesty and fairness for domain name registrants.

TIP!  If you find someone in Customer Service who seems unable to solve your problem call them back and talk to another Representative as there are many,very qualified company reps who are trained for this task, especially the competent professional ... Concierge Dept.

Note: You will have to renew/transfer your expired and deleted domains names right
away as there is just a short "Grace Window" or risk paying a $80 Redemption fee, ACT NOW!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
LegalWorker - BYE-BYE REGISTERFLY! Registered | 2007-06-13 00:30:53
*SQUASHED!
registerflynomore - Registerfly notice finally fou Registered | 2007-06-12 22:06:08
Registerfly has finally posted the required notice at the top of all of their web pages. Not sure the point size is correct but it's no longer hidden distorted text.
Rhyze - Notice is posted on RF Registered | 2007-06-11 09:52:22
http://www.registerfly.com/index.php

"NOTICE TO CONSUMERS.
THE INTERNET CORPORATION FOR ASSIGNED NAMES AND NUMBERS - THE NON FOR PROFIT ENTITY THAT ADMINISTERS THE INTERNET'S DOMAIN NAME SYSTEM, HAS ISSUED A NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF THIS COMPANY'S ACCREDITATION TO SERVE AS AN INTERNET DOMAIN NAME REGISTRAR.
PLEASE SEE WWW.ICANN.ORG FOR FURTHER INFORMATION."

Finally
captainproton Registered | 2007-06-11 17:33:47
It's like pulling freakin' teeth. It's still not 14 point type.
kimvette - re: GoDaddy has joined the bad Super Administrator | 2007-06-11 17:26:54
John7 wrote:
1) GoDaddy's 60 days restriction is not only unprofessional, it is also unethical. Of all things that happenned to the victim of RF, GD have just made it worse by adding more insult to the injury.


That is ICANN's 60-day restriction, not GoDaddy's. Complain to ICANN if you do not like it. GoDaddy is simply following the process ICANN laid out.
John7 - Are you serious? Registered | 2007-06-12 12:41:26
Come on now Kimvette. Are you simply just being naive or do you happen to be a GoDaddy's employee who's jobs is to post on this forum?

If you have followed my blog, it clearly stated GoDaddy is not innocent in this case. They took what's available from ICANN, then added their own flavor. You know very well they have the power to remove this restriction. They are simply abusing it. More relevant points will be listed on my next post.
SkipCard - re: re: GoDaddy has joined the Registered | 2007-06-11 19:14:02
kimvette wrote:
That is ICANN's 60-day restriction, not GoDaddy's. Complain to ICANN if you do not like it. GoDaddy is simply following the process ICANN laid out.


It's true that the 60-day number does appear in the http://www.icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm Policy on Transfer of Registrations between Registrars. The exact language there, though, is that "[t]he Registrar of Record may deny a transfer request only in the following specific instances," (emphasis added) including, "9. A domain name is within 60 days (or a lesser period to be determined) after being transferred . . ."

"May," especially along with the "lesser period to be determined," would appear to indicate that the registrar has a choice in the matter (as opposed to "shall" which would force them to abide by the 60-day number).

Surely ICANN knows the importance of the difference between "may" and "shall" in writing policy. (And, presumably, GoDaddy does, as well, in reading policy.)
blakilox - Godaddy nasty business Registered | 2007-06-12 02:11:54
Godaddy said
"you must act before June 28, 2007 to retain ownership of your domain names"

Now they say
"This is your last chance to renew your domain name(s)! YOU MUST RENEW BY Jun. 14, 2007 OR THE DOMAINS LISTED BELOW WILL BE CANCELLED"


Anybody else experiencing this nasty change of the rules from GoDaddy? how do I write to Bob?
John7 - GoNasty Registered | 2007-06-12 12:45:17
We area also experiencing this problem. Both ICANN and GoDaddy claimed that we have until June 28th to renew. However, GoDaddy's greed couldn't wait so they sent out emails with notification that your name will be cancel. This mean your domain will end up on the auction block soon.

I say if you can afford it, let them do that. Then go to Clark Dummit and ask for GoDaddy's name to be an additional defendant in the ongoing class action lawsuit. That ought to teach them a lesson.
John7 - Excellent Points Registered | 2007-06-12 12:46:37
I am going to post a comment made by someone at the ICANN blog. This person made many excellent and relevant points:

"All requests for such transfers are automatically rejected by Godaddy and will continue to be so for 60 days.

This seems improper since the automatic transfer from Registerfly to Godaddy does not constitute a customary transfer (payment to Godaddy, acceptance of their TOS, extension of expiration date, an explicit and willful action by the registrant to use Godaddy, etc.) and the 60 day hold should not apply.

While the registry requirement for transferring out are met (lock status can be removed and the AuthCode obtained from Godaddy) Godaddy is unilaterally and automatically rejecting all transfer out requests. I maintain Godaddy does not have such authority - whether based on its agreements with ICANN (which has yet to be posted at ICANN’s website) or based on a user agreement (which has never been established with the registrant due to the ICANN sanctioned automatic transfers).

On its website Godaddy states: “ICANN named GoDaddy.com the new custodian of the .COM, .NET, .ORG, .INFO, .BIZ, and .NAME domain names that were previously registered at RegisterFly. ”

If Godaddy is the “custodian” of these transferred domain names it should not have the authority to place constraints on the domain names over and above that which existed while the domain names were at Registerfly. This includes the inability to place an additional 60 day prohibition on transferring out and imposing mandatory renewals on expiring domain names.

If Godaddy is allowed to forcefully place this 60 day hold not only will already expired registrations have to be renewed at Godaddy and no other registrar of registrant’s choice but also those registrations that will be expiring in the next 60 days will have to be renewed at Godaddy!

In effect Godaddy will not be the “custodian” of these domain names but rather the sole new registrar imposed for an additional year (under its own terms and conditions and its own fee structure) without any alternative for the current registrant.

One would hope ICANN’s agreement with Godaddy was not supposed to impose such a huge windfall for Godaddy by forcing a long term relationship by the Registerfly registrants with Godaddy.

According to Godaddy’s website “more than 850,000 domain names will have been moved.” Assuming 2/12 of these already expired during the past two months at Registerfly due to the acknowledged problems and 2/12 will expire in the next two months a total of 1/3 of the automatically transferred domain names (280,000) will be forced to be renewed at Godaddy for an additional year - without any such consent currently existing by the registrant. This constitutes a windfall of over $2,500,000 in sales for Godaddy simply for entering into the agreement with ICANN, and a sizable profit based on its $9.17 price. Adding insult to injury Godaddy will charge these domain names at its renewal fee of $9.17 instead of its transfer fee of $7.17.

If Godaddy is allowed to enforce this 60 day hold policy this arrangement would not by definition constitute a “custodial” and interim relationship with Godaddy but rather a forceful acceptance of a third party registrar with its own TOS (which we never agreed to) and an ICANN sanctioned unilateral and coerced acceptance of Godaddy as our registrar for one more year.

Registerfly registrants should be able to choose where to renew their registrations (past their TOS with Registerfly) and not be forced to renew with Godaddy and accept Godaddy’s TOS if they do not so desire.

The ICANN agreement with Godaddy may allow it to inherit the arrangement between the registrant and Registerfly but not to impose a new relationship with Godaddy in the future without the registrant’s consent.

Hundreds of thousands of domain names transferred from Registerfly are currently hijacked by Godaddy and forced to be renewed under their terms and conditions in violation of ICANN rules and policies.

This is not a routine matter relating to a registrant requested and approved transfer from Registerfly to Godaddy which would be subject to ICANN’s Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy’s Holder-Authorized Transfers. Naturally the 60 day hold would apply to those instances.

However in the current case the registrants have not requested nor agreed to this automatic transfer, an agreement with Godaddy has not been established and Godaddy is merely acting as a “custodian” of the domain name as stated on its own site. Clearly ICANN’s Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy’s “Holder-Authorized Transfers” 60 day hold does not apply to the automatic transfers which are not Holder authorized.

A cursory review of policy clearly establishes that automatic transfers falls under Paragraph B. ICANN-Approved Transfers (which makes no mention of a 60 day hold) and not Paragraph A. Holder-Authorized Transfers (which provides of a 60 day hold after a registrant authorized transfer).

Paragraph A-3 further provides an example for exclusion of the 60 day hold where the transfer occurs pursuant to an agreement between the Registrars and/or a dispute resolution process. Such is the case here where the automatic transfer has occurred due to registrar/registry/ICANN agreements and without the specific agreement of the registrant.

See http://icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm

This matter currently effects some 100,000 expired domain names and over 200,000 more expiring in the coming months which have been wrongly subjected to a 60 day hold and effectively hijacked by Godaddy.

ICANN’s public statement regarding this matter could immediately resolve this matter."
John7 - RE: GoDaddy nastby business Registered | 2007-06-18 13:02:03
They are doing this to everyone. Let's find a way to sue the hell out of them.
domain_guy - please explain more Registered | 2007-06-12 03:59:14
did one expire recently? or all?
Are any or all of your domains in good standing (active not expired)with different expiry dates? does godaddy want you to renew all of your domains in your account or just one?
I just checked my two "registerfly induced accounts" and emails and I have not recieved any message as your describing.
Godaddy is worse than Iran holding our domains hostage. I think its day 12 of the godaddy hostage crisis for me.
John7 - Rip off artist Registered | 2007-06-12 12:42:41
They simply want all of your domain to be renewed with them. This include the already expired and upcoming expiring domains.
John7 - RE: Please explain more Registered | 2007-06-18 13:01:08
They want the expired domains to be renewed by June 28, but has already sent out "final" notice. They haven't drop names yet, but expect that happen on June 28th.
mixedup - re: Registered | 2007-06-12 18:25:09
You will expect GoDaddy to cancel registration of your domains if the registrants and the payee are not the same.

I registered some domain names with them through a friend who has a Paypal and GoDaddy cancelled all the registrations.

PPNSteve wrote:
OK bad news.. woke up today to an email saying my transfer was canceled. CANCELED!!

I did not cancel my transfer.. and the dns / whois now shows GoDaddy as owner..

Quote:

************************************************** ****************
ITEM CANCELLATION CONFIRMATION
************************************************** ****************


Dear Steve

Per your request, the items listed below have been cancelled
from your account, 1314####:

.NET Domain Name Transfer - 1 Year: 1-GB.NET

If you feel this cancellation has occurred in error or you need
further assistance, our support staff is available 24 hours a
day, 7 days a week via:

+ Online Support:
https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/support.asp?prog_id=GoDaddy&isc=wwbb566
+ Email: support@godaddy.com
+ Phone: (480) 505-8877

Thanks again for being a GoDaddy.com customer.

Sincerely,
GoDaddy.com

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Copyright 2007 GoDaddy.com. All rights reserved.


[code]Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.


Domain Name: 1-GB.NET
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: No nameserver
Status: redemptionPeriod
Updated Date: 30-may-2007
Creation Date: 11-feb-2006
Expiration Date: 11-feb-2007

>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:10:36 UTC
jakesrun - eNOM has mine Registered | 2007-06-12 23:39:16
I am a small player here. Only two domains (of three) of which I care about. However, eNOM has them now and is wanting me to pay $50 to get them out of "redemption" Even though they expired back at the beginning of April whilst KM had them in RF limbo. I have re-registered in the .us TLD so I am pretty much braced to never see them again. Not happy here.
John7 - eNom has mine Registered | 2007-06-18 12:59:36
eNom is thinking that they could get away from the current class action law suit by sending names into redemption. That has just added more insult to the injury. The fact remained that they knew about RF's situation and extorted people's money. By sending names into redemption now, they have just made it worse.
A Cherry On Top - re: Excellent Points Registered | 2007-06-13 21:41:06
John, I'm also one of Godaddy's victims, they are forcing me to pay their extremely high renewal fees especially high for .info names at $10 a pop and just at the time they took over the domains I was about to transfer & renew at another register where I would have got them for half their price. This is a lot of money when your talking about hundreds and thousands of domains that some of us own. I never had any problems trasferring my domains out of Registerfly like others have had but I don't have aproblem with that but I DO HAVE A PROBELM WITH THESE SCUMBAGS ARE NOW FORCING ME TO LOSE A LOT OF MONEY SO I CAN PAY THEIR HIGH EXTORTION FEES so I'm now been forced by Godaddy to lose a lot of money because of their power trip and they think they can get away with anything they want now that they are in bed with ICANN. Well I have news for these money leaching lowlife scums at Godaddy... Guess what made Registerfly go down??? yes it is PEOPLE POWER & THE INTERNET. GODADDY YOU ARE WORSE THAN REGISTERFLY

John7 wrote:
I am going to post a comment made by someone at the ICANN blog. This person made many excellent and relevant points:

"All requests for such transfers are automatically rejected by Godaddy and will continue to be so for 60 days.

This seems improper since the automatic transfer from Registerfly to Godaddy does not constitute a customary transfer (payment to Godaddy, acceptance of their TOS, extension of expiration date, an explicit and willful action by the registrant to use Godaddy, etc.) and the 60 day hold should not apply.

While the registry requirement for transferring out are met (lock status can be removed and the AuthCode obtained from Godaddy) Godaddy is unilaterally and automatically rejecting all transfer out requests. I maintain Godaddy does not have such authority - whether based on its agreements with ICANN (which has yet to be posted at ICANN’s website) or based on a user agreement (which has never been established with the registrant due to the ICANN sanctioned automatic transfers).

On its website Godaddy states: “ICANN named GoDaddy.com the new custodian of the .COM, .NET, .ORG, .INFO, .BIZ, and .NAME domain names that were previously registered at RegisterFly. ”

If Godaddy is the “custodian” of these transferred domain names it should not have the authority to place constraints on the domain names over and above that which existed while the domain names were at Registerfly. This includes the inability to place an additional 60 day prohibition on transferring out and imposing mandatory renewals on expiring domain names.

If Godaddy is allowed to forcefully place this 60 day hold not only will already expired registrations have to be renewed at Godaddy and no other registrar of registrant’s choice but also those registrations that will be expiring in the next 60 days will have to be renewed at Godaddy!

In effect Godaddy will not be the “custodian” of these domain names but rather the sole new registrar imposed for an additional year (under its own terms and conditions and its own fee structure) without any alternative for the current registrant.

One would hope ICANN’s agreement with Godaddy was not supposed to impose such a huge windfall for Godaddy by forcing a long term relationship by the Registerfly registrants with Godaddy.

According to Godaddy’s website “more than 850,000 domain names will have been moved.” Assuming 2/12 of these already expired during the past two months at Registerfly due to the acknowledged problems and 2/12 will expire in the next two months a total of 1/3 of the automatically transferred domain names (280,000) will be forced to be renewed at Godaddy for an additional year - without any such consent currently existing by the registrant. This constitutes a windfall of over $2,500,000 in sales for Godaddy simply for entering into the agreement with ICANN, and a sizable profit based on its $9.17 price. Adding insult to injury Godaddy will charge these domain names at its renewal fee of $9.17 instead of its transfer fee of $7.17.

If Godaddy is allowed to enforce this 60 day hold policy this arrangement would not by definition constitute a “custodial” and interim relationship with Godaddy but rather a forceful acceptance of a third party registrar with its own TOS (which we never agreed to) and an ICANN sanctioned unilateral and coerced acceptance of Godaddy as our registrar for one more year.

Registerfly registrants should be able to choose where to renew their registrations (past their TOS with Registerfly) and not be forced to renew with Godaddy and accept Godaddy’s TOS if they do not so desire.

The ICANN agreement with Godaddy may allow it to inherit the arrangement between the registrant and Registerfly but not to impose a new relationship with Godaddy in the future without the registrant’s consent.

Hundreds of thousands of domain names transferred from Registerfly are currently hijacked by Godaddy and forced to be renewed under their terms and conditions in violation of ICANN rules and policies.

This is not a routine matter relating to a registrant requested and approved transfer from Registerfly to Godaddy which would be subject to ICANN’s Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy’s Holder-Authorized Transfers. Naturally the 60 day hold would apply to those instances.

However in the current case the registrants have not requested nor agreed to this automatic transfer, an agreement with Godaddy has not been established and Godaddy is merely acting as a “custodian” of the domain name as stated on its own site. Clearly ICANN’s Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy’s “Holder-Authorized Transfers” 60 day hold does not apply to the automatic transfers which are not Holder authorized.

A cursory review of policy clearly establishes that automatic transfers falls under Paragraph B. ICANN-Approved Transfers (which makes no mention of a 60 day hold) and not Paragraph A. Holder-Authorized Transfers (which provides of a 60 day hold after a registrant authorized transfer).

Paragraph A-3 further provides an example for exclusion of the 60 day hold where the transfer occurs pursuant to an agreement between the Registrars and/or a dispute resolution process. Such is the case here where the automatic transfer has occurred due to registrar/registry/ICANN agreements and without the specific agreement of the registrant.

See http://icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm

This matter currently effects some 100,000 expired domain names and over 200,000 more expiring in the coming months which have been wrongly subjected to a 60 day hold and effectively hijacked by Godaddy.

ICANN’s public statement regarding this matter could immediately resolve this matter."
jbfly - Class action Registered | 2007-06-18 08:56:41
I have been in direct contact with Go Daddy's president regarding this exact problem and he is unwilling to compromise. I have contacted several class action law firms and am looking for anyone who may be affected by this. Please reply if interested.
John7 - Class action Registered | 2007-06-18 12:57:27
A class action sounds good. What is the name of the person who's unwilling to compromise. What did he said to you? Remember to keep the communication via email instead of versbal. This way you can retain it as evidence.

I actually got emails from them wanting me to renew first, then after we transfer out, they will refund the money. That is just plain idiodic becase:

1) Why do they want their accounting to work harder? Talk about all the credit card future charging back. That alone will give them a nightmare

2) Once you renew with them, they have the right to lock you in for another 60 days.

3) How can they give you a refund when knowing they have only 45 days from the time of renewal to obtain a refund from the registry, which is Verisign?

In regard to this new tactic of theirs, I can only conclude with one thought. GoDaddy is trying to either surf on your money interest free for 60 days and/or have the genuine motive of invoking the 60 days rule legally this time due to the names are now renewed.

Bastards! Let's all sum up and teach GoDaddy a lesson.
John7 - RE: Class action Registered | 2007-06-18 13:04:13
I am sure many are in the same situation. How do we centralize a communication center? Shall we kick start a dedicated forum to this matter?
John7 - RE: Class action Registered | 2007-07-03 11:54:28
How do I contact you?
9878 - enon Registered | 2007-06-13 22:22:40
Anyone else have their domain locked by enon? Regisf__k apparently used enon and now since I couldn't renew in April, I can't get my domain. Even though I am still listed in whois. How long after expiring do domains come free? Or do they ever?
John7 - RE: enon Registered | 2007-06-18 12:52:20
They are actually have been sending names into redemption.
namesean - GODADDY SUCKS Registered | 2007-06-14 21:06:37
They have been nothing but terrible so far. Ofcourse I lost my main domain which happened to be my main email. It has taken 5 days, 20 emails and 4 faxes, to UPDATE an EMAIL.

The fax is too dark.
The company name listed is a DBA
Fill out this form
Fill out that form
Please wait 48 hours
The company name does not match
No not that company name
OH - your MAIN account had a company name in it somewhere, please send your tax ID for that.

PAINFULL!!

I dont care how cheap they are. They dont care.

I could not image if anyone put fake info in there. OMG anyone who put a fake compnay name in hopes of one day being a company. You might as well go be a company. THAT IS EASIER! You are screwed. They just pass the buck, they dont want to help. They seem overwhelmed!

GODADDY SUCKS. 5 days to update an email and I STILL HAVENT UPDATED IT.

I'll let you know when I complete step one of my process.
John7 - RE: GoDaddy SUCKS Registered | 2007-06-18 12:51:52
You know it's a tactic by them to steal your name.
tann - I am mad at GD and enom Registered | 2007-06-17 18:37:45
Today is my third bad experience with Godaddy...! I am fed up. Now they force me to pay for a renewal which I done twice at RF before.

Problem:
The expiration data in their database is Feb 2007. Whois indicates it as Feb 2008 (which is correct). They refuse to correct data and want me to pay it one more time. Greedy bastards...!

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I also recommend everyone to keep an eye at them. One day I found out that some of my domains have auto-renewal settings... which I couldn't do myself! No way I am very accurate with that.
tann - I am mad at GD and enom Registered | 2007-06-17 18:50:04
And I am completely mad with their cynic way of communicating: "If you are missing registration years that
you have paid to RegisterFly you will need to contact them for assistance with the un-applied registration time"

It's easier to fly to the moon...!!!
John7 - RE: I am mad at GD and eNom Registered | 2007-06-18 12:51:05
I think it is wise to include such comments in the law suit. Do you have those emails that were sent from them. You should capture them to PDF and save as evidence.

Once I update the other post with more relevant info, then you can email that attorney with these proof.
ranjii - .com.au domain ?????? Registered | 2007-06-18 00:50:56
What about the .com.au domain owner? A few days ago , I was emailed to godaddy about my domain(.com.au) and reply is so disappointed. They are not handling .com.au domain and they even can't locate where about my domain.

Anyone know how to retrive .com.au domain from registerfly?

Regards,
Ranjii
John7 - .com.au domain Registered | 2007-06-18 12:49:00
Ranjii,

I would suggest to contact your registrar that handles the .au domains. Then find out where these domains are now at. Whichever registrar is holding these domains, you can get authorization from them and either renew or transfer out.
jbfly - Complaints arising against Go Registered | 2007-06-18 08:47:52
Some complaints have arisen from former RegisterFly customers (whose domain names were included in the transfer deal) that Go Daddy is refusing to allow transfer to another registrar. Go Daddy is citing ICANN rules which they claim allow them to deny transfers within the first 60 days of a previous transfer. Customers contend that this rule only applies to Holder-Authorized Transfers and note that the transfer from RegisterFly was involuntary.
John7 - The heat is on Registered | 2007-06-18 12:47:16
I say it's time to raise the bar and seek legal counsel. I am starting the dialogue with several legal counsel to see how we are going to be able to include GoDaddy in the class action.

They are not going to get a way with this. For GoDaddy to think of themself as being able to get away with this, that is just plain stupid as stupid does.

I will keep you all posted
tartan - Bureaucrat Daddy! Registered | 2007-06-18 16:35:29
Godaddy is the most bureaucrat registrar I have ever seen. For those who are owners of 10 or 20 domains (less or more), it's not a big deal! But for those who have hundreds of domains each for a different customer it's impossible to manage them with godaddy.

In fact godaddy is not a professional registrar. Simply, look at their renewal notices with tons of advertisements. One who has many domains in portfolio is not a newbie and knows what he/she wants and no need to beg them to buy this and that with each and every domain transaction.

Look at their transfer-out policy, grace period and ... Perhaps they fit for many users since they have a majority of domains in their hand but this is not a justification to make other's like me (who BTW hate their hidden tricks and unethical policies) captive.
John7 - Unethical . Time to go...dadd Registered | 2007-06-18 18:32:50
I couldn't agree with you more. From the outset, the name "GoDaddy" is already a joke. It's a perfect fit for name of a porn site (i.e... no daddy, no daddy... uh oh, here come the police... go daddy, go daddy, go now).

Secondly, Bob Parsons is another joke. Mature man with earing who does commercials which intimidates women and midget is not only unprofessional, it is also very unethical.

GoDaddy could never gain the trust from majority of domain owners with larger porfolio. The system itself were never built to handle such capacity. You are absolutely right, the advertisement for many years have been an eyesore for me.

Now their desperate tactic of holding domain owners hostage is going to come back and bite them in the @$$ in the biggest way possible.

It's time for GoDaddy to give up or be ready for unpredictable consequences.
SouthAfricaRed - Unfair criticism Registered | 2007-06-19 00:16:14
I think a lot of the criticism on here against GoDaddy is unfair.

GoDaddy has spent money and Time rescuing the domain names from RF. They are entitled to a return on this. They are not a charity organization.Why should they just allow transfers out without getting something in return after spending their time and their money?

People are complaining about domains that a lot have given up on. GoDaddy has given people a chance to rescue their domains. Their renewal fees are not unreasonable. Sure you can get it cheaper elsewhere, but is the money saved worth the risk of having a repeat of RF

It's only domains that have expired/expiring that will be affected by the 60 days period. The majority can be transferred out after the 60 days if you chose

I dont work for GoDaddy. I'm just a satisfied customer who have experienced nothing but professional service from them.

Thanks GoDaddy
jbfly - RE: Unfair criticism Registered | 2007-06-19 05:24:29
I had no opinion, positive or negative, of Go Daddy's service until I experienced their intractable stance and refusal to address the issues I raised regarding their interpretation and implementation of the ICANN rules they are citing. The criticism is fair.

What is unfair is the arbitrary imposition of a 60 day lock on 850,000 domains! If Go Daddy's service is so good, then why do they have to keep customers captive?

The domains were transferred to Go Daddy under the ICANN-Approved Transfers section of the Policy on Transfer of Registrations between Registrars. That section does not contain any explicit or implied reference to the transfer denial rules contained in the Holder-Authorized Transfers section. Go Daddy is making a defective inference to claim authority to deny transfers out.

One of ICANN's stated recent accomplishments was the establishment of market competition for gTLDs. Go Daddy is clearly attempting to hamper this effort.
jbfly - Transcript: GD Trnsfr denial Registered | 2007-06-19 04:33:38
MESSAGE SENT TO BOB PARSONS:

Hi Bob,

Why won't you allow the former RegisterFly domain holders to transfer out of Go Daddy? I am being told by your staff that a 60 day transfer lock is in effect for all of the domains transferred from RegisterFly to Go Daddy. You should understand that you cannot impose the 60 day rule because the transfer from RegisterFly to Go Daddy was involuntary and therefore does not fall under ICANN Holder-Authorized Transfers.
You are setting yourself up for a class action lawsuit.[/color]


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REPLY RECEIVED BY OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT-GODADDY.COM:

Dear Mr. O,

Thank you for contacting Go Daddy. Our office has been asked to address your concerns.

We understand you do not believe that RegisterFly domain migrations to Go Daddy should invoke the same mandatory 60-day lock of ordinary inter-Registrar transfers.

Currently, we have not been given the authority to treat the RegisterFly migrations any differently than standard transfers. We apologize that this may be an inconvenience for yourself or other customers, but we are required to adhere to the ICANN regulations currently in place.

Please let us know if there are other matters with which we may assist.

Regards,

Alon
Office of the President
GoDaddy.com
14455 N Hayden Rd. Ste 226
Scottsdale, AZ 85260
(480) 505-8828 Phone
(480) 275-3975 Fax

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REPLY SENT TO OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT-GODADDY.COM:

On the contrary, no authority was given to Go Daddy to invoke the 60-day lock as specified in Section A: Holder-Authorized Transfers of ICANN's Policy on Transfer of Registrations between Registrars. The transfer from RegisterFly to Go Daddy is covered by Section B: ICANN-Approved Transfer, which makes no explicit or implied association or reference to Section A. You are overstepping your authority and effectively forcing registrants to agree to your terms of service whether they choose or not. This is clearly not the intent of ICANN's policy nor is it good business practice.


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REPLY RECEIVED BY OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT-GODADDY.COM:

Dear Mr. O,

We understand and appreciate your concerns. However, our company has not been given the authority to lift the 60-day hold on domains transferred to us from RegisterFly.

If you have any additional questions about this matter, we recommend contacting ICANN directly.

Regards,

Alon Waisman
Office of the President
GoDaddy.com
14455 N Hayden Rd. Ste 226
Scottsdale, AZ 85260
(480) 505-8828 Phone
(480) 275-3975 Fax


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REPLY SENT TO OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT-GODADDY.COM:

Both you and I know that your statement is patently false. You not so deftly refuse to address my specific points and resort to reiteration in the hope that I will just shut up and go away. Don't underestimate my resolve on this matter.

As I understand, there were 850,000 domains in your transfer agreement with ICANN. Given that a substantial portion would be forced to renew with Go Daddy (under your misinterpretation of ICANN's policies) the resultant windfall would subject Go Daddy to additional scrutiny and possibly end in civil litigation -- perhaps even charges of fraud.

Rather than rely on amorphous tactics to gain a short term gain, it would be in Go Daddy's long term interest to rely on your customer service record to retain the already disgruntled domain holders you acquired from RegisterFly. Anything else would make Go Daddy no better than the registrar they replaced.
ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-06-19 22:17:37
All I want to say is two things. 1. Go Daddy wasn't able to help me, and probably a lot of others as well. We fell through the cracks befroe this agreement came to pass. I did finally get my doamin into an eNome account, but not withot much, much pain, grief and lost and wasted, non billable time. And now that my domain is at eNom, and not where I want it to be, eNom is holding it hostage at least for a certain period of time while it has to sit there during this 90 day period before they will me to move it to the registrar of my choice. 2. RegisterFly still has the money that they stole from me and apparantly I will never see that money again. I still got screwed!!!!
ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-06-19 23:31:51
Now that I've read through a bunch of the posts above (I've not logged in here in a few weeks), I just want to add to what I wrote above. I was able to transfer my last problem domain out to eNom. But I had initially tried to transfer it to GoDaddy and that transfer failed because RegisterFly would not provide the transfer code. I paid GoDaddy for the transfer (they did refund that money by the way) but the transfer eventually expired because of the problem with RegisterFly. It took a really, really, really long time, tons of emails to nearly everyone under the sun, including emails to ICANN, before I finally succeeded in even getting my domain moved into an eNom account. With the exception of one single really nice guy at eNom, the rest of their customer service staff was rude, arrogant and argumentive with me. I’m not happy with eNom at all. eNom was not the place where I wanted my domain name to end up and they are doing the same thing to me as a lot of people here are complaining about that GoDaddy is doing. I.E., holding my domain hostage until the expiration of the 60 day waiting period. I was forced to pay eNom a renewal fee, even though I didn't want to have my name with them in the first place. It's the same situation as people here complaining about GoDaddy. I'll bet there are a lot of others out there who had this same issue with eNom, just like me. I think this is a problem with anyone who either wound up having to move to eNom against their will, as well as with people involved in this mass GoDaddy transfer. I think the real issue here is domains having to be moved to a place other then where the registrant wanted to move their domain to. In the bigger picture though, maybe we should all just be glad that our domains managed to get moved away from RegisterFly at all. This is a complicated and really messed up situation all the way around. At least some of us did come out of this with our domains still intact (at least somewhat). I am not at all happy with eNom holding onto my names, but just like everything else in this entire screwed up situation, it's just another one of those things that I am ultimately going to have to bite the dust on and accept. I'd like to have the money back that RegisterFl stole from me, too - which is still just, setting there in my account doing absolutely nothing for me. In reality, I know the money isn't really there though, because Kevin used it to pay for his nice condo, or he used it to pay for a good lay with a hooker, or he used it for a nice dinner at some fancy restaurant. Whatever he used it for, it was my money and he stole it. What really burns me though is that he got away with it. And no one can honestly dispute that he’s really getting away with all of this shit because even if the class action suit is won, how much will any single one of us ever really see from this law suit? Maybe we'll get a little check back, 10 years from now, in the amount of $10 bucks each. This doesn't even begin to compensate for all of the theft and for the damages caused by Kevin and his bogus business. The bottom line is - we all got screwed and there is absolutely nothing that we can do about it, not ever. The law suit is going to feed the attorneys, but do nothing really tangible for any of the rest of us. That's the reality, and it totally SUCKS! Law enforcement isn’t there; we really had no protection from this under the law. Kevin SHOULD be in jail but he isn’t, and probably never will be. Give it a year or two and Kevin will be back up on his feet again, running another scam someplace. That’s the way it works in the U.S.
tartan - Laundry! Registered | 2007-06-20 07:35:33
The worst part is if the user database really has been sold. I can't believe that they are still making money from this!

How come it's possible that godaddy gains profit and receive cash from us on the same subject that originally registerfly is still in debt for it to us!

This is a new business model. It sounds like like a laundry is going on in between.
jamz - WHOIS Protection WTF!!!!!!!!!! Registered | 2007-06-24 08:16:00
Now that all of my domain accounts have been purchased by GODUDDY, I now have to pay 8.99/year for WHOIS proctection where it was free with RegisterFly...

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ajmurphy1 Registered | 2007-06-24 22:03:01
Well, I guess you could transfer them all BACK to RegisterFly if you want. THat way you can LOOSE them all and won't have anything else to worry about.
John7 Registered | 2007-07-03 11:52:07
I'd like to know what type of drug you are on?
dchor - Domain can't transfer Registered | 2007-06-25 03:13:59
I don't know why my domain transfered to enom.com. And the owner and admin. cantact is not correct. But enom don't let me change. So, I can't change to other registrar. What can I do? Please help.
John7 - RE: Domain can't transfer Registered | 2007-06-26 03:17:28
Contact Clark Dummit at registerfly-lawsuit.com, they already have a case going. Add your names to the list of injury. That ought to grab their attention.
John7 - ICANN's failure Registered | 2007-06-26 03:22:23
Look like ICANN is at it again. By not taking a stand on the current GoDaddy issue, ICANN continue to create more anger among the victimized registrants.

We keep directing questions at them about this matter, yet ICANN keep talking about Registerfly and to prevent future registry failure. The situation is with the registrar, not registry. It seems that ICANN purposely evading us when it come to GoDaddy's matter.

I have a feeling ICANN is benefiting from the deal struck with GoDaddy. That's the reason them being silent. If not, why don't ICANN take a stand now.

This is going to escalate to a class action law suit and ICANN is to blame for another performance failure. They continue to make not so intelligent mistakes. You should voice your opinion, try the following 2 links:

http://blog.icann.org/?p=150#comments

http://blog.icann.org/?p=148#comments
John7 - Class action against GoDaddy a Registered | 2007-06-26 03:24:02
I strongly suggest we gather together and file a class action at this point. It's useless to talk to ICANN and GoDaddy at this point.

A class action required a minimum of 6 victim of the same concern with similar injuries. Please let me know of your thought.
John7 - Title of this blog Registered | 2007-06-26 03:26:08
By the way, the title of this blog should be changed to "GoDaddy.com reaches agreement to ROB and HELD HOSTAGE of Registerfly customers"

Admin should consider carefully when posting title like this. They are not helping. On the surface it may seems so, but GoDaddy and ICANN does have motives and hidden agenda
Maxzm - re: RE: GoDaddy nastby busines Registered | 2007-06-27 09:54:25
John7 wrote:
They are doing this to everyone. Let's find a way to sue the hell out of them.


I am recieving emails from godaddy to renew mylawers.biz or lose the domain.
The domain was transfered to enom months ago registered till 2008 and has never been in any godaddy account.

Seems like we need a new class action lawsuit against all others involved in the registerfly scandle, but not including those mentioned in dummit lawsuit so as the registerfish do not get off the hook.
Maxzm - re: Unethical . Time to go... Registered | 2007-06-27 10:40:09
John7 wrote:
I couldn't agree with you more. From the outset, the name "GoDaddy" is already a joke. It's a perfect fit for name of a porn site (i.e... no daddy, no daddy... uh oh, here come the police... go daddy, go daddy, go now).

Secondly, Bob Parsons is another joke. Mature man with earing who does commercials which intimidates women and midget is not only unprofessional, it is also very unethical.

GoDaddy could never gain the trust from majority of domain owners with larger porfolio. The system itself were never built to handle such capacity. You are absolutely right, the advertisement for many years have been an eyesore for me.

Now their desperate tactic of holding domain owners hostage is going to come back and bite them in the @$$ in the biggest way possible.

It's time for GoDaddy to give up or be ready for unpredictable consequences.


I must agree as well, we do not want a regfly 2 here, because thats all I have had so far with godaddy, false invoices, corrupted whois and now I have to waste just as much time with checking every little penny pinching detail in my accounts with godaddy and following up with support tickets as with registerfly.
Its just not worth it! I want out!! but my domains are imprisoned again.
longben - My domains are save now.... Registered | 2007-06-27 14:18:43
From today all my 200+ domains (except 1) are out of Registerfly and now with eNom and Godaddy.
As far as I can see everything is ok now and of course I don't like the 60 day period, I don't like RFly made money from it selling it to Godaddy, I don't like at all how ICANN handled till now, but I can sleep again.
I really hope all of you can also save yr domains and get your lost domains back.
What amazes me in this is that this RFly people get away with it, possible without any real damage done to them. I expected USA law stepped in, but as far as I can see the American dream worked for the crooks from RFly only, not for us.
What all the talks about Godaddy concerns: they are till now :-) the only registrar that I worked with that was not giving me problems at all. Perhaps I'm the lucky one :-), but till now I'm happy with them, their interface.
Probably we indeed pay a little more, but I can sleep and don't need to worry like I did in the last 6-8 months.
Kudos (and a lot of them) to the webmaster of this site and all people participating in the discussions, it was really a great help! Internet is a great thing!
Longben
Belgium
John7 - Class action Registered | 2007-06-29 11:16:43
I would recommend for all who is affected by the GoDaddy situation to contact Clarke Dummit (http://www.nclawyer.com/). They already have a class in place for ICANN, Registerfly, and eNom. Adding GoDaddy to the list would not be a problem.

There will be immediate due process to stop GoDaddy from doing what they are doing and allow you to transfer out. Furthermore, we should sue the heck out of them for punitive damage.

I am really tired of the evading tactics by both ICANN and GoDaddy. They are not pointing fingers at each other. You can visit ICANN blogs and see for yourself. GoDaddy is saying it's ICANN's rule. Kieren McArthy said GoDaddy have the right to make money as a registrar. McArthy mentioned "I believe" in one of his/her comment. So I am not sure whether that's his or her personal opinion. But regardless, this person's title is as Public Relation to ICANN. What he/she says mean that's the idea ICANN represent. By generally being silent on this matter, ICANN has just made it worse.

I've learned that a few has already contacted their own attorneys or Clarke Dummit. I would suggest for us all (the victim) to teach GoDaddy a lesson. Also, we should let ICANN know how stupid they are to continue treating us like we don't even exist.

I bet ya ICANN made money on the GoDaddy deal. That's the only reason why they lips are sealed. Can you think of another reason? As you are reading this post, they could be reading it as well. Well, hopefully they won't be as stupid trying to conceal evidents. I am sure plaintiff's counsel will subpoena for those records in relate to the transaction between ICANN, GoDaddy, and Registerfly. My advice to them, pay the fines if you have to, but don't hide the evidents. You will end up in "sing sing".

Oooh, I can't wait to see the day this case goes to trial. I will definitely be there to see these greedy corporate bastards answer themself in court. But then again, they could be kicking back at home and let their lawyers argue the case in court... on our dime.

My 2 cents
John7 - re: Class action Registered | 2007-06-29 11:18:31
John7 wrote:
They are not pointing fingers at each other.


I meant to say they are now pointing fingers at each other.
John7 - GoDaddy matter Registered | 2007-07-03 11:56:23
To all that's currently in the hostage situation with GoDaddy. Please let me know if you are interested in a group action against GoDaddy.
tartan - IP Restrictions Registered | 2007-07-04 04:28:00
I know registerfly former clients from Iran, and godaddy have baned the Iranian IPs.

They can't even see the godaddy website. In their TOS they do not provide services to Iranian due to U.S. sanction imposed on Iran or what ever.

What I see is that they are violating U.S. laws by getting involved in business against the sanction, and at the same time they are violating these innocent domain holders right who were not agreed to their terms and had no will to do business with them, by taking their domains hostage and don't let them to manage or transfer out their domins to anywhere else (This is more like discrimination, because if they don't want to do business with them at lease they could let them move out their domains).

This is another complication, do you think we can address this situation in that class action and push it on both ways?
kerryww - Fraud Recovery Registered | 2007-07-05 00:07:40
During the months of November and December 2006 Registerfly charged my credit card for registration of other people domains. They wrongfully charged my Mastercard a total of $158 I tried to call, email and even snail mail them but they refused to answer.

I then contacted my bank and put in a charge back. Registerfly paid back the money.

They then suspended my account with 5 domains in it. They then listed my domains as Fraud Recovery as the Registerant.

One important domain for my business expired and was sold to another person. This person now has a parked page up in place of my web site. I emailed him and he said I could have my domain back for $40,000!!!

I still have 4 other domains that are listed as Fraud Recovery as the registrant. Godaddy is the Registrar.

I have been on the phone with Godaddy for a total of about 8 hours and sent them about 40 emails to prove that I'm the registerant. But I'm getting nowhere with GoDaddy. I'm still listed correctly as the Administrative Contact in Whois (see below). I have tried to call the telephone and fax numbers listed but they are all disconnected.

Is their anyone else here who has had their Registerant name changed by RF into Fraud Recovery? This is a total nightmare! I thought GoDaddy were here to help?

Here is a whois lookup on one of the domains.
Registrant:
Fraud Recovery
box 2418
livingston, New Jersey 07039
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: GOLDCOASTSALSA.COM
Created on: 02-Aug-03
Expires on: 02-Aug-07
Last Updated on:

Administrative Contact:
Whitfield, Kerry
N/A
PO Box 49
Broadwater, - 2472
Australia
+1.9737362545 Fax -- +1.9737362545

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tartan Registered | 2007-07-08 04:35:48
Well, I had some sort of same problem. You may have a long way to go, but since I don't see your email in whois above but I think it's better if you go with their email change procedure.

Shortest way is to contact them by phone or open a ticket on their website.

Ask them to send you the form to change registrant email, don't talk too much or don't try to explain whole situation it just make it more painful.

If you are lucky they will send you a form, you have to fill it, there are some dummy questions you may leave them blank and send it back to them by email or fax.

If everything goes fine, you'll get a new account and they will push your domains in to that account. You have to set (reset) a password for it.

There maybe other ways, but as far as I have tried this one just worked for me. Remember you may have to call them since some of their support staffs may not be familiar with this procedure.
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